New Carbine...ideas...an excercise

[jaybet]

I'm just thinking....just in case a few things were to go my way, I'd like a new handgun but in NJ I need a permit, etc.etc....takes a while. So I'm thinking rifle...an AK or AR would be fun, but I kinda don't want to get into a whole different caliber right now either, so I'm thinking carbine.

So guys, here's your chance to help... I've got 45acp, 357/38, and 9mm to work with (sticking with my handgun calibers). I can't spend much, so who's got a great idea? 357 lever action comes to mind first, but then...9mm? I'm not much on that plastic Beretta thing...fired one and thought it was way overpriced. High Points just look a little too much like plumbing parts to me. So where do I go and what can I get? How about 45 acp carbines?

[Hazcat]

Get a Rossi Lever gun.  .357

$424 at Buds http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_cat_search.php?cated=40&manufacturers_id=318&ITATR_list[1]=1626&ITATR_list[2]=258&ITATR_list[3]=&ITATR_list[4]=&ITATR_list[7]=&ITATR_list[8]=&ITATR_list[0]=

[kilopaparomeo]

+1 to the 357/38 lever action carbine.  Just go watch a cowboy match with top competitors sometime to understand how fast you can shoot one...plus you can reload as you go.  Pretty formidable piece of hardware.

In addition, .357 in a rifle gives you plenty of ommph to take up to deer sized game if the you want to hunt with it as well.

Another option is one of the carbine conversion units for a Glock or a 1911...of course you need a pistol to begin with.

[ellis4538]

Who put out the "Camp Carbine" a while back?  They made them in .45 and 9mm. They took factory mags.  The last I heard they were still available in 9mm only.  I believe it was Marlin.  From everything I have heard they were good to go and accurate.  I believe I fired one in .45 but I'm not sure.  Probably would get one if in the market.  I heard someone was converting one to use Glock mags.  Can anyone say 30 rounds of 9mm fun!

FWIW

Richard

[twyacht]

Puma/Rossi have fantastic carbines in calibers you listed. I remember June or July cover of American Rifleman had several options.

Since your in Stalag, New Jersey, I would defer to a Finnish 9mm carbine, from J&G, but I think NJ "frowns" on those "evil" types of rifles...

[Sponsor]

[Timothy]

.357 lever gun gets my vote and maybe some of my money as well....I've been drooling over them for a year.

[alfsauve]

I've got the Camp 9.  Nothing special, just a solid blow-back 9mm.   Not terribly accurate but quite usable for what it is, a "camp carbine".   Take small game, defend the fire side.

Now if you've goin' "cowbow" on us, well then the .357 lever is the way to go.

I'd think about a lever if it was chambered  for .357Max, then I could really take deer, plus shoot the other two calibers as well.  However, let's be realistic. If you want deer get a 30/30.  There aren't many of us left that load Max anyway.  It was a brief 1970s-80s caliber.   I guess I'm just an anachronism.

[bafsu92]

Who put out the "Camp Carbine" a while back?  They made them in .45 and 9mm. They took factory mags.  The last I heard they were still available in 9mm only.  I believe it was Marlin.  From everything I have heard they were good to go and accurate.  I believe I fired one in .45 but I'm not sure.  Probably would get one if in the market.  I heard someone was converting one to use Glock mags.  Can anyone say 30 rounds of 9mm fun!

FWIW

Richard

Yep, it's a marlin and they use S&W pistol mags, 59 series for the 9's and 45 series for the 45's. Watch gunbroker and you can sometimes find a really good deal on them. I've got both my 9 is in a butler creek folding stock and the .45 is in a take-down stock that I've never seen another of, might be a custom job. These are great SHTF rifles. You could get the 9 and pick up a nice police trade in 5906 and a dozen or so mags and have a great little bug out package.

[Big Frank]

A used Ruger PC carbine may be available. They're as handy as a 10/22.

[Hazcat]

I've got the Camp 9.  Nothing special, just a solid blow-back 9mm.   Not terribly accurate but quite usable for what it is, a "camp carbine".   Take small game, defend the fire side.

Now if you've goin' "cowbow" on us, well then the .357 lever is the way to go.

I'd think about a lever if it was chambered  for .357Max, then I could really take deer, plus shoot the other two calibers as well.  However, let's be realistic. If you want deer get a 30/30.  There aren't many of us left that load Max anyway.  It was a brief 1970s-80s caliber.   I guess I'm just an anachronism.

Alf,

Do you think a .357 from a revolver could kill a deer at ten feet?  If so then the .357 lever is good to 100 yards (same fpe and velocity!)

Actualy the rifle has more at 100 yards

Revolver Muzzle velocity 1130  fpe 510

Rifle 100 yards velocity 1282 fpe 657

this is for a federal 180 grain JHP