New Carbine...ideas...an excercise

[alfsauve]

Well, Haz,

it's the old, you can never bring too much gun.  Sure a .357mag will kill a deer.  At even longer ranges with a rifle, as you say.  But the .357Max will give just that much more edge.   It's a mute point, since the Max is a dead caliber.   

But man, all they would have to do is drill the chamber just a little bit longer.   (assuming of course the rifle were engineered for the pressures.)

[Hazcat]

Well, Haz,

it's the old, you can never bring too much gun.  Sure a .357mag will kill a deer.  At even longer ranges with a rifle, as you say.  But the .357Max will give just that much more edge.   It's a mute point, since the Max is a dead caliber.   

But man, all they would have to do is drill the chamber just a little bit longer.   (assuming of course the rifle were engineered for the pressures.)

Alf,

I was just pointing out that a .357 is plenty of gun to hunt deer with and not worry about getting a clean kill.

[blackwolfe]

A used Ruger PC carbine may be available. They're as handy as a 10/22.

I was thinking the same thing.

[MAUSERMAN]

I have a PC9 and I feed it a steady diet of +p ammo without a hicup. An other great feature of the pc9 is that my p89 and p95 mags interchange.

[Walter45Auto]

I'd get a .357 Mag lever gun (And not just because I want one myself... Well, partly...). With .45 ACP carbines there's pretty much only the Beretta Storm, and the HK USC if you can find one. I believe Hi-Point is supposed to come out with one, but it ain't out yet. The Marlin Camp 45, good luck finding one. A .357 Lever gun Will be the easiest to get your hands on. You could get the Kel-Tec SUB 2000 in 9mm if you wanted to go that route. And you can get one that takes Mags for your GLOCK, SIG 226, or Beretta 92. (I'm still holding out for one in .45 that takes G21 mags.) With what you're wanting I'd get the .357 lever gun.

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[fightingquaker13]

If you've got a Glock or S@W the Ke-tec sub-2000 might be worth a look. The fold-up feature is nice for a bug out un. They are also pretty cheap, about $400. Whether they are any good or not, I don't know, but the fact it uses Glock mags (reliable, common as dirt, and with the thirty rounder available) is a huge plus.
FQ13
PS that said, for a general utility multi tasker, its hard to beat a .357 carbine (although I do prefer .44 mag if I were starting from scratch). You're not. For SD, the 10 odd rounds in the tube are all you're likely to fire anyway and it will fire pretty fast with practice. It will also work for hunting.

[crusader rabbit]

I'd toss my vote for the .357 lever.  I just bought my second Rossi/Braztech lever--this one in .357.  The first was in .44 Mag.  The .357 is available in several configurations in either blue or stainless.  Go online to http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php and register to get the best price.  If you just go online to Buds without registering, the price shown will be a few bucks more.  They don't charge for shipping, either.   The .44 Mag has been a joy to shoot--though it gives a pretty good smack to the shoulder.  I haven't yet shot the .357, but the action is smooth right out of the box and I think it's going to be a fun gun to shoot.  I'll let you know.

[bafsu92]

Here's what you need: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=187964044

[fightingquaker13]

Here's what you need: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=187964044

Defined for very large values of need I hope. If you "need" this, odds are you are either half way to dead, employed by Halliburton, or making a real nice living  in the rereational pharmecutical industry as a "collections agent". I don't know whether to laugh or drool. Actually, I do, I'll settle on drooling and curse my sherriff who won't issue type IIIs in my county.
FQ13

[Hazcat]

Defined for very large values of need I hope. If you "need" this, odds are you are either half way to dead, employed by Halliburton, or making a real nice living  in the rereational pharmecutical industry as a "collections agent". I don't know whether to laugh or drool. Actually, I do, I'll settle on drooling and curse my sherriff who won't issue type IIIs in my county.
FQ13

That's illegal, FQ.  The state occupies the whole field of firearm regulations here in FL.