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GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: August 31, 2010, 11:48:15 AM »

Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?
By  John Cloud   Monday, Aug. 30, 2010

One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink actually tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.

But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does actually tend to increase one's risk of dying even when you exclude former drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers. (See pictures of booze under a microscope.)

Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.

But why would abstaining from alcohol lead to a shorter life? It's true that those who abstain from alcohol tend to be from lower socioeconomic classes, since drinking can be expensive. And people of lower socioeconomic status have more life stressors — job and child-care worries that might not only keep them from the bottle but also cause stress-related illnesses over long periods. (They also don't get the stress-reducing benefits of a drink or two after work.)

But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables — socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on — the researchers (a six-member team led by psychologist Charles Holahan of the University of Texas at Austin) found that over a 20-year period, mortality rates were highest for those who had never been drinkers, second-highest for heavy drinkers and lowest for moderate drinkers. (Watch TIME's Video "Taste Test: Beer With Extra Buzz.")

The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the never-drinkers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.

These are remarkable statistics. Even though heavy drinking is associated with higher risk for cirrhosis and several types of cancer (particularly cancers in the mouth and esophagus), heavy drinkers are less likely to die than people who have never drunk. One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.

The authors of the new paper are careful to note that even if drinking is associated with longer life, it can be dangerous: it can impair your memory severely and it can lead to nonlethal falls and other mishaps (like, say, cheating on your spouse in a drunken haze) that can screw up your life. There's also the dependency issue: if you become addicted to alcohol, you may spend a long time trying to get off the bottle. (Comment on this story.)

That said, the new study provides the strongest evidence yet that moderate drinking is not only fun but good for you. So make mine a double.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2014332,00.html#ixzz0yCe9WwQV
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Re: GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 11:51:16 AM »
Guess this means I'm screwed.   Well, I might as well go get some stogies then
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 11:57:01 AM »
Its like the old Johnny Carson monolouge. "If you don't drink smoke or eat fatty foods, you'll outlive those who do by four years. And spend every day of them wondering why you bothered". ;D
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 11:57:19 AM »
I have some time then... ;D


Must be the "pickling effect"  :o


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Re: GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 12:31:29 PM »
This calls for a drink or two...or a half dozen.  Thanks Haz for validating my chemical dependencies through a percentage number.  Go find a good study on smoking now brother.

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 12:53:35 PM »
Men's Magazine did a study several years ago to find the best "sports drink" to replace lost vital substances after heavy excersize.

They included all the leading products aimed at doing that that were available at the time.  The had doctors and test instruments to measure fluid, electrolyte, vitamin and mineral replacement effects plus other health benefits.

They included beer in the study and beer won. 

Did all the advertised good stuff better than any of the drinks plus it was a muscle relaxant and stress reliever.

Now the news about how alcohol consumption has marked  health benefits.

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 01:10:45 PM »
Thats one reason I stay away from eating healthy/natural foods - too many people dying of natural causes.

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 02:24:18 PM »
Men's Magazine did a study ...They included all the leading products... They included beer in the study and beer won. 

Did all the advertised good stuff better than any of the drinks plus it was a muscle relaxant and stress reliever.

Do we need any further proof that God loves us?

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Just an historical note...  Beer started out as a way to store grain that was safe from rats.  The Egyptians did it first, then the monks in medieval Europe.  The monks really perfected the process, and they worked for The Man Upstairs.  Really is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.   ;D
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 03:01:24 PM »
Thanks Haz! I'm just not so sure about that "Moderation" part...that's a little nebulous. Better to overmedicate than to come up short.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2010, 03:17:41 PM »
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Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

Because they ran over them on the way home from the bar.......... yuck, yuck, yuck....  :P
Don't forget to tip your waitresses and bartender folks........

I read an article once that said consuming alcohol with or shortly after a meal also helped break down certain 'heart harmful' fats in the digestive tract and prevented them from being absorbed.

Sounds good enough for me....bottoms up!!
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