All Thee California bills DEFEATED!

[Hazcat]

Sacramento, CA --(Ammoland.com)- All three of these bills posed a fundamental threat to the rights of gun owners. And there was no room for compromise any one of the bills.

It was a fight down to midnight, but in the late hours of August 31, AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 were DEFEATED!

This is a huge win for gun owners. Thank you to all members who took time to contact members of legislature and voice their strong opposition to these bills. Your collective voice was heard loud and clear at the capitol. You stoked the fire against AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 and it paid off!

If enacted, Assembly Bill 1810 would have required registration of rifles and shotguns in the same way handguns are now registered in California. Under current law, the information collected at the time of purchase of a rifle or shotgun (serial number, make, and model) is destroyed after the background check is completed. AB 1810 would have required that the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, as well as the identifying information of the purchaser, be recorded and kept on file by the California Department of Justice.

If enacted, AB 1934 would have deleted provisions of current law that allows a firearm to be carried openly in a belt holster. AB 1934 did not provide a way for a law-abiding citizen to carry a firearm for self-protection or other legitimate purposes.

If signed into law, AB 2358 would have required that ammunition vendors transmit records of sale, information on the quantity and type of ammunition purchased, and the personal information of purchasers collected at the time of sale to local law enforcement if required by city or county ordinance. AB 2358 would have also allowed uncontrolled expansion of city and county ordinances requiring handgun ammunition vendors to transmit all information collected relating to sales of handgun ammunition and some rifle cartridges to local law enforcement agencies.

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING OUT AND HELPING TO PRESERVE YOUR RIGHTS!

The California Rifle and Pistol Association “CRPA,” founded in 1875, is dedicated to defending the rights of law-abiding citizens to responsibly use firearms for self-defense and the defense of their loved ones, for sport, and for all other legal activities. CRPA is the official state association of the National Rifle Association. A California non-profit association, CRPA is independently directed by its own Board of Directors. CRPA’s members include law enforcement officers, prosecutors, professionals, firearm experts, the general public, and loving parents. CRPA has always worked to reduce the criminal misuse of firearms and firearms accidents, while actively promoting and organizing the competitive shooting sports and Olympic training programs in California. We are proud to say that many CRPA competitors are among the best in the world.

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/09/01/a-political-victory-for-all-gun-owners/

[twyacht]

Even TAB agrees there are "sane" folks in Kalifornia. Just have to remove yourself from San Fran, Sacramento, and Hollywood.

But the Legislature just WON'T STOP. They keep coming, and coming, attempt after attempt, to try to curtail any pro 2nd Amend. anything....

What will it take? When put to the mat, this kind of anti-gun BS FAILS, but what will it be next month?

Kudos to Kalifornia, but it is an election year, and two faced bastard politicians are nationwide, not just in Ka....

[TAB]

It should be noted that the OC bill came up twice to be voted on, both times it was defeated by one vote.






Remember how I said those guys in Socal OCing and worrying people would lead to bad things...


I told you so.

Luckly it was not banned, but it was extremly close.  I also have little doubt it will keep coming up every time people get the attention they are looking for by OCing.( which is what this group wanted)

[tombogan03884]

TAB, only a coward would advocate giving up a legal right (OC ) to avoid offending a bunch of fa  Liberals.

[TAB]

whos giving up a right?

you can have your rights and not be a ass about it.


The group in socal wanted attention, they just didn't want that attention.

besides OCing a UNLOADED gun is extremly dumb... you notice they didn't do it in any "bad areas"

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[fightingquaker13]

whos giving up a right?

you can have your rights and not be a ass about it.


The group in socal wanted attention, they just didn't want that attention.

besides OCing a UNLOADED gun is extremly dumb... you notice they didn't do it in any "bad areas"

Gotta agree with TAB here as a matter of strategy. Engaging in public stunts to gett attention can be a good political strategy. But only if you have a plan to actually use that attention effectively once you have it. These guys did a great job of the first part. They were all over the media and even got a "relatively" sympathetiic hearing on "The Dailey Show". They just weren't so good at the follow through. It didn't seem like a call to action on a statewide CCW or the like, just an in your face to the antis. The antis responded predictably. If they had tied this to something positive and concrete on our side it could have at least let us set the debate. They didn't.
I'd say A for artistic merit
D for technical execution.
FQ13

[JC5123]

A lot of the problem stems from the fact that you can't have a rational debate with MOST people in Kalifornistan. I run into this daily with another forum. As soon as you disagree with them, they just start to denigrate you. They can't debate you intellectually, so they start attacking you personally. Standard liberal playbook. Best thing to do is just walk away. You can't argue with someone who won't debate the issue.