Ga State USPSA Championship

[alfsauve]

Okay, I'm registered.   Don't have my ammo finalized, but am working on it.   If the 9mm bullets get here in time, I'll shoot reloads at 130 power factor.  Otherwise it'll be a toss up between the .40S&W download and the 9mm with factory ammo.

If you're interested, here's the entire match including courses of fire.

Warning it's 7.5 MB and a PDF

http://www.gastatechampionships.com/img/2010/2010gastatematchbook.pdf


I finally figured out (had a friend explain to me) the secret USPSA classifying system.   What I wanted to know was what was the base line for each stage.   What was 100%.   Evidently USPSA treats it as a big secret, though anybody can reverse engineer into it.  So it's against USPSA policy to post (and they frown on members posting) the High Hit Factor for each stage.   But with a little help and some digging I figure out I scored a 44% on my first classifier which is a "C" ranking.

Now if I can just figure out why all Production guns shot as a "minor" caliber.   It would make more sense to give them a slight advantage over open and limited by scoring all production guns as a major caliber.   At the very least, let .40 and .45 production be counted as major.

Oh well, one of my goals is to strive for accuracy anyway.  This just pushes it a little more.     

[ellis4538]

Alf, if you figure it out let me know......and USPSA HQ also!  LOL

Richard

[MikeBjerum]

100% for classifying is the highest score of all scores received for that classifier for a given time.  For a major match it will be the highest score for that match.

That is a basic and as simple as it gets.  However, I think there is more to it than that.  But ... If you look at it that way you will be close.

The production gun being minor only doesn't matter in comparison to the other areas.  Your classification is only good for the division you are shooting in anyway.  At least as long as it is a USPSA or SC event.  It could be an issue if you go to some off the wall event, like Pro-AM, and they look at your classifications to rank you, you only have a production classification, and then you have to shoot major power level.

[ellis4538]

alf...Since you are limited to 10+1 up the spout and 10 on reloads make sure you try to find a spot where you can reload on the move!  You will save time if you keep standing reloads to a minimum even if you have to dump 2-3 rounds - but you knew that.  If your first plan will have you dropping 5+ rounds try another plan (they should give you 5 min. to check over the stage).  Watch shooters after the stage briefing checking over the stage and also try not to be the first shooter in the squad so that you can watch others shoot.  Take double the ammo you think you will need.  Carry equipment to take appart and clean your mags between stages just in case.  Have a back-up gun in the same cal. if you have one.  Carry a big lock bag just in case you have to take something appart with small springs or pins.  Take things appart in the bag so that the springs/pins will not get lost if they go flying.

Most of all...stay safe and have fun!

Richard

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Now if I can just figure out why all Production guns shot as a "minor" caliber.   
     

Sounds like a great time Alf! Not to worry, production shooters are not competing against the Limited or Open guys, so scoring us minor doesn't matter. It is my guess, but I think the reason USPSA scores everyone minor in Production is to avoid the equipment race that is characteristic of the higher tech Divisions.

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[alfsauve]

100% for classifying is the highest score of all scores received for that classifier for a given time. 

That's mumbo jumbo, m58.   What is "a given time"?  What is the 100% the last time they figured it?    That's the "secret".  The HHF (high hit factor) for each classifier is............well classified.   And evidently the process by which they choose them, from time to time, is well....not clearly understood either. 

What I don't understand is why all the secrecy about what 100% is.  Everyone figures it out anyway.

Not to worry, production shooters are not competing against the Limited or Open guys, so scoring us minor doesn't matter. It is my guess, but I think the reason USPSA scores everyone minor in Production is to avoid the equipment race that is characteristic of the higher tech Divisions.

Every match I've seen they always post "overall" rankings regardless of class.  Yes, some production class shooters do very well, but why handicap them against the other divisions.

And by making all production minor class, you're just encouraging everyone to shoot 9mm and nothing else.   Production, by definition, isn't an equipment race anyway.   And in the limited and open divisions it isn't the caliber that drives  the race guns.

I think there is some deep sinister plot against production shooters by the rich, evil open shooters. 

[MikeBjerum]

That's mumbo jumbo, m58.   What is "a given time"?  I think it is the last quarter of a year (month you are in and two previous) What is the 100% the last time they figured it?You can figure that by dividing your score by your classification percentage (go to your listing on the web site and it will give you your scores and percentages)    That's the "secret".  The HHF (high hit factor) for each classifier is............well classified.   And evidently the process by which they choose them, from time to time, is well....not clearly understood either. 

What I don't understand is why all the secrecy about what 100% is.  Everyone figures it out anyway.   It's not a secret, they just don't post it.  It can be easily figured out.  The thing they keep secret, outside of individual match postings, is who had the high hit factor or 100%.  That is a part of USPSA's privacy protection (your identity)


Every match I've seen they always post "overall" rankings regardless of class.  Yes, some production class shooters do very well, but why handicap them against the other divisions.
And by making all production minor class, you're just encouraging everyone to shoot 9mm and nothing else.   Production, by definition, isn't an equipment race anyway.   And in the limited and open divisions it isn't the caliber that drives  the race guns.

I think there is some deep sinister plot against production shooters by the rich, evil open shooters.    Just the opposite.  Production was developed to exclude all the tricks and games carried on in the other divisions.

[addict]

Every match I've seen they always post "overall" rankings regardless of class.  Yes, some production class shooters do very well, but why handicap them against the other divisions.

And by making all production minor class, you're just encouraging everyone to shoot 9mm and nothing else.

One that I do posts an overall score too! I love to look at that to see how many of the supergun guys I beat with my Glock, but that is just for fun and seeing where you scored overall.  They should post a 'Production Finals" score as well, and that is the one that matters in USPSA.

You got it on the minor scoring. They are encouraging 9mm. The point of the division is to keep the costs of getting into USPSA low. 9mm is the cheapest centerfire ammo available, ergo thats what the rules support.

It would be fun if they had a LimProd Division that let you load your mags up all the way though...

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[alfsauve]

I think it is the last quarter of a year.....

Ah see, there isn't a link to USPSA that will states this clearly.  Every one is guessing.

It's not a secret, they just don't post it.  

It is against policy to post it.   Which means that it is a secret as to the OFFICIAL HHFs.     True everybody has figured it out, but they aren't official.   Not sure what posting the HHF has to do with protecting individual names.   They do post the TOP 20 names.  True only members can view them.  

ADDICT:   If you want cheap then why not a .22lr division?   And if all I have is a .40sw why handicap me?    I'm still not seeing why, if I shoot a high power factor, I'm penalized in production.   Other than to encourage me to move to Limited or Limited-10.  Which is what someone at every match has said to me.      Which seems to say USPSA looks upon production as a entry level step child and that those shooters will move onto the other (equipment race based) divisions.

[Evil smirk] [Deep voice w/ reverb]  One day production shooters will rule the executive committee......wha wha wha! [/Deep voice][/Evil smirk]

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ADDICT:   If you want cheap then why not a .22lr division?   And if all I have is a .40sw why handicap me?    I'm still not seeing why, if I shoot a high power factor, I'm penalized in production.   Other than to encourage me to move to Limited or Limited-10.  Which is what someone at every match has said to me.      Which seems to say USPSA looks upon production as a entry level step child and that those shooters will move onto the other (equipment race based) divisions.

Heck yeah!! I would love a rimfire division. Seems like the people at USPSA are pretty stuck on minor power factor. If you could get a .22 up to 125 PF, maybe you could get them to lower the caliber requirement. I may be wrong but I dont think they are penalizing you for using higher power factor. I shot single stack last year and at the chrony I was hitting 189 PF. Didnt really care about the recoil, I just wanted a flat shooting reliable .45.
Thats just the rules of the game. If you handload you can download the round to minor power factor and blaze through the stages with puffball loads.
I think you are correct! Production is the free sample (or at least the cheap way to try it out) that attracts more shooters to USPSA
Either way, have fun!! Sounds like a great match.

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