Whale Wars

[Badgersmilk]

I know you fella's hit on this topic some time back (fun thread to read).  But having just now seen the re-run of the "ramming" I'm pretty disgusted with the stupid "Hippy Pirates" and Discovery Ch. for not disclaiming their hippy lies.

It was painfully obvious the hippy idiots did a Kamakazi run into the front of the whaler!  In the video you see a very small prop wash off the ady gil until just before the whaler passes, then you see huge prop wash as they gun it just in time to get in front of the whaler.



I heard the idiot captain of the ady gil is in jail now. Is it because the busted him for doing this?  I HOPE SO!!!

I think we should take up a collection to buy this paint job for all the whaler's boats! 



Where can I buy some whale steaks to eat while I watch the next episode?   

[Badgersmilk]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061800890.html

"I guess I do feel sorry for the whales," said Shun Ishimura, 7, shyly fiddling with his L.A. Dodgers T-shirt. Like many of the children, he was tasting whale flesh for the first time. He said that despite his feelings, he "ate it anyway because it looked so good. And when I ate it, I liked it. Whale is really delicious."



This guy looks pretty happy to be on/in the can.

[MikeBjerum]

They are running a Pirate Whale Wars marathon today.  I just checked, and at 9:00 PM eastern they will have a new episode where dip sh*t talks about his time in a Japanese jail.

Over the next couple hours will be his getting on board ... damn surprised he didn't get killed during that!

Only reason I watch is to raise my blood pressure and root for the Japanese.

By the way, if you watch the episode where the Ady was hit they make it sound and look like the black boat was disabled and stranded when it was hit.  When you watch the Japanese footage it is obvious that they sunk themselves to try and set the Japanese up.  Amazing that there are tree huggers out there that fall for this crap 

[Badgersmilk]

Stump a hippy:  If a venus fly trap can "feel" a fly in its mouth, it can feel pain.  So if plants can feel pain how dare hippys kill them for food?!?  This means vegitarians are vicious killers just like everyone else! 

"WHAT NOW HIPPY?"   

(I know /you know this is crazy, but if challenging a hippy with it could lead to them starving themselves to death..."   

[fightingquaker13]

Stump a hippy:  If a venus fly trap can "feel" a fly in its mouth, it can feel pain.  So if plants can feel pain how dare hippys kill them for food?!?  This means vegitarians are vicious killers just like everyone else! 

"WHAT NOW HIPPY?"   

(I know /you know this is crazy, but if challenging a hippy with it could lead to them starving themselves to death..."   

A real hippy will not only eat meat,but raise/hunt it herself. It was about a back to the land, off the grid, anti-corporate lifestyle. Perdue=bad, yard chickens=good. Im not that committed, but I respect it. This PETA inspired anorexic veggie nonsense, since that has "zero impact" and chickens are people too?? Give me a break. I have zero problem with real hippies as long as they bathe. The wannabe's, them I have issues with.
FQ13

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[Badgersmilk]

A real hippy will not only eat meat,but raise/hunt it herself. It was about a back to the land, off the grid, anti-corporate lifestyle. Perdue=bad, yard chickens=good. Im not that committed, but I respect it. This PETA inspired anorexic veggie nonsense, since that has "zero impact" and chickens are people too?? Give me a break. I have zero problem with real hippies as long as they bathe. The wannabe's, them I have issues with.
FQ13

+1  Today's "hippie" is to often a dumb #@$ celebrity or politician (uhum, Al Gore cough, cough) who dreams up a "save the whatevers plan" just to get attention or scam on the American public.

[mkm]

I stumbled upon this forum a few weeks ago and have been reading old posts and checking things out since then.  For the most part, I have enjoyed it but haven't seen anything that compelled me to register and reply until recently.  The first topic was the drunk baboons, and the second was this one.

I don't want to make a bad first impression, but I would like to say some things about this topic.

First off, let me clarify a few things about myself.  I am a gun toting, hunting, fishing, superduty driving, meat eating guy who is nowhere near being a hippy.  However, I'm also a wildlife biologist, and that leads me take up for the animals on some occasions.

As Americans, we are blessed in so many ways, but that hasn't stopped us from being some of the greediest folks out there.  Just look at what we've done to our own natural resources in the last couple hundred years.  Do a little research on the passenger pigeon; a bird so plentiful that it would surely never go extinct.  Or the number of bison that used to roam the plains, even in the East.  Or the number of large predators that we've killed just for the sake of killing.  My point is that just because there's an animal out there that we can kill, it doesn't mean that we should kill them all.

About the show, the first time I saw it a few years ago, my first impression was that they were ecoterrorists/pirates.  As I watched a few more episodes (forgive me, I got bored it was on), I've about come to the conclusion that their intentions are good but their tactics are lacking.  As daddy would say, "They've got the right string, but the wrong yo-yo."  I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with following the whalers around trying to stop them, but I think they cross the pirate line with launching objects and attempts to board other vessels.

My take home point is that maybe it wouldn't be too bad of an idea to think twice before eating that whale steak.

Thanks for putting up with such a long post.

[Pathfinder]

mkm - welcome aboard, glad you decided to post.

As to your points, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Just look into the eyes of that whack job of a captain and tell us again how their tactics are "lacking". It is my truly HO that he doesn't give a rat's ass if his people live or die - he has an agenda and nothing will get in his way of advancing that agenda. The rest of his crew - the few I've seen actually - are brain-dead idealistic sheeple who "believe in the cause".

As for whale steaks, to each their own. I'm a cattleman, and no problem with people eating whatever grows out in the world.

Don't worry about saying things that might rub people the wrong way here. If you have an honest belief, no problem. Back it up with facts? Even better. We seem to relish a good discussion.

Can I get some A-1 for this whale steak? ? ? ?     

[Solus]

MKM, good to see you posting. 

I have heard two reasons for stopping the hunting of whales.  I don't know if either is valid.  Perhaps you might have that knowledge.

The first reason is that they are in danger of becoming extinct if hunted at the current rate.

The  second reason is that they may posses intelligence close to humans.

Any answers?

Also, Dolphins...  They are said to have high intelligence also.

Further, they seem to be species unique in befriending humans in need with no prior reward or incentive, from carrying they to safety when drowning to protecting humans from sharks. (although sharks are KOS to dolphins anyway...I've heard)

Any incidents of humans being attacked or harmed by dolphins?

Thanks for any answers you might be able to provide.

Take care.

[r_w]

Any incidents of humans being attacked or harmed by dolphins?

Yes.  General rule:  no matter how cute or friendly an animal, do NOT get between a mother and her child!