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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 11:38:06 AM »
Back to the original point of this thread.......the political power of the internet.

Why do you think the current administration is working on getting a kill switch?


Solus, you hit the nail on the head. It's not just 50 parishoners. It's the individual that can stir the pot. That's what socialists and communists fear most: the individual having rights! The Imam has the right to build his mosque (if he has a build permit). The Reverend has the right to burn Qurans (if he has a burn permit, of course). The President speaks for the Imam and against the Reverend. Why? The Reverend is using the internet to multiply the effect of his message. Socialists and communists cannot allow that to happen, hence, net neutrality is required to put big government back in the driver's seat. Makes you wonder what position the ex-President will take on such matters after we vote him out of office, eh?
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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2010, 11:46:10 AM »
Solus, you hit the nail on the head. It's not just 50 parishoners. It's the individual that can stir the pot. That's what socialists and communists fear most: the individual having rights! The Imam has the right to build his mosque (if he has a build permit). The Reverend has the right to burn Qurans (if he has a burn permit, of course). The President speaks for the Imam and against the Reverend. Why? The Reverend is using the internet to multiply the effect of his message. Socialists and communists cannot allow that to happen, hence, net neutrality is required to put big government back in the driver's seat. Makes you wonder what position the ex-President will take on such matters after we vote him out of office, eh?
+10. The guy may be an irresponsible media whore, but you have to love the fact that a nobody can get the attention of the worlds most powerful folks without resorting to violence.
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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2010, 12:09:20 PM »
This would have been just another local non-event except some lame-stream media weenie got his/her panties in a wad about it.  Media rule # 1 - if it bleeds, it leads.  These turds make their bones selling sensationalism, scandal, and controversy and never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

As far as it being a recruiting tool for the Taliban, what isn't?  The only difference is now they might have some video (thank to network news) to go with the same story they've been pushing for years.  Don't expect a medieval society to be able to grasp a concept like logic.

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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 12:18:49 PM »
+10. The guy may be an irresponsible media whore, but you have to love the fact that a nobody can get the attention of the worlds most powerful folks without resorting to violence.
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Um, define violence. Burning a book is not a violent act. Its just a symbolic gesture. When you get down to brass tacks all this guy is doing is making a gesture that shows how he feels about the radical nature of the muslim religion. Do you compare this to terrorist videos of beheadings?
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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2010, 01:20:59 PM »
Um, define violence. Burning a book is not a violent act. Its just a symbolic gesture. When you get down to brass tacks all this guy is doing is making a gesture that shows how he feels about the radical nature of the muslim religion. Do you compare this to terrorist videos of beheadings?

I think you misread FQ's post.  He was saying that this minister got world wide attention with a non-violent act.  As a matter of fact with no act at all just stating he would burn the book.

Of course there are protests in Afgan about it.  One protester killed so far.  I'd have to say that the burning is generating pro Islamic action since they weren't protesting anything yesterday.



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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2010, 02:03:20 PM »
I think you misread FQ's post.  He was saying that this minister got world wide attention with a non-violent act.  As a matter of fact with no act at all just stating he would burn the book.

Of course there are protests in Afgan about it.  One protester killed so far.  I'd have to say that the burning is generating pro Islamic action since they weren't protesting anything yesterday.





You are correct! I DID misread it. My apologies. Sorry guys, I don't think I've had any real sleep in about 2 weeks. Starting to catch up to me.  :P
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 02:37:14 PM »
It's the individual that can stir the pot. That's what socialists and communists fear most: the individual having rights!

Just like the printing presses in Colonial America.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2010, 07:35:35 PM »
Well the copycats are coming, check Drudge. Pastors in several other states have jumped on the band wagon.

America, as a whole, is just pissed off, for a variety of reasons, pick one. It doesn't take much for the ol' sleeping giant to rear up and say Enough!.

It strikes many "grasseaters", as Col. Jeff Cooper called them by surprise. The "Tree Of Liberty, Being Refreshed", scares the moderates.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws...you create a nation of law-breakers and then you cash in on guilt."
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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2010, 08:16:35 PM »
Well the copycats are coming, check Drudge. Pastors in several other states have jumped on the band wagon.

Westboro?  (I refuse to call them baptists or a church) Another handful of people that get WAY more than their 15 minutes due to their shock value and the internet.

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Re: And yet more crazy. (Please read)
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2010, 09:41:25 PM »
Anything those Westboro A holes support I oppose. They are the scum who protest at veterans funerals.
But TW is right, the Amendments are there to protect the things you don't approve of or agree with.

 

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