HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?

[Rastus]

Geez, Don't let MB hear you put it that way, bad Karma !   But you are right, Mexico never had a democracy, If we have a Constitutional Republic then they must have a constitutional dictatorship, at least since they got away from the Emporor thing, with Maximilian. (up against the wall french motherf#@ker, Wasn't that a song a few years ago?)

Yeah...a song...I think it was from Jefferson Submarine or something....or maybe it was something I heard said at the submarine races once...I dunno, I think I remember hearing something like that a few years ago.

[DDMac]

The point of my question was that while we are in apparent decline as a Democracy, as historical observation concludes, Mexico, or at least the Hispanic guy on the street, is pulling their country UP the scale toward it. Seems like they are somewhere between 1 and 2 on the scale. They want it (at least the ones I talk to daily do). They are beginning to have money, individually, albeit proceeds of illegal labor in the U.S. One day they may have their own 2ND Amendment. And go back home to Mexico, where they really want to be. In the mean time, the people here in the U.S. are in an orgy haze, enjoying all the free stuff the public office holders can take from the dwindling pool of taxpayers to throw out to the mobs (who get to vote!).  Mac.

[Rastus]

No argument with that Mac.

[Hazcat]

My opinion?

It will survive as long as there are people willing to take a stand for what they believe.

[DDMac]

Shooting at Party Leaves 2 Dead (here in NC, WRAL-TV))
 

Posted: Today at 5:14 a.m.
Updated: 31 minutes ago

Clinton, N.C. — An argument at a party escalated into a shooting that left two men dead and four others wounded in Sampson County, the sheriff's office said.

All those involved in the shooting were attending a party at a house at 1135 Old U.S. Highway 701, between Garland and Clinton, Sheriff Jimmy Thornton said. At some point, five men and a teenage boy began fighting.

"They were all gathered behind this trailer, and (there) had been some drinking going on," Thornton said. "And apparently, an argument took place, and (they) started shooting each other."

A call about the shooting came in at 1:05 a.m., and deputies found the men and 15-year-old with gunshot wounds in the back yard of the house, Capt. Eric Pope said.

Sergio Cruz Rojas, 31, and Humberto Sanchez, 36, both of Clinton, were later pronounced dead at the Sampson Regional Medical Center in Clinton.

Deputies identified the three wounded men as Jose Delacruz Santibanez, 49, Jose Santivanez, 24, and Estaban Majia, 35, all of Clinton. The name of the 15-year-old boy was withheld.

Thornton said investigators were confident that no one else at the party, except the injured and deceased, was involved in the shooting. Deputies were not sure which of the six males were the shooters.

A shotgun, 9mm handgun and rifle were used to fire at least 50 bullets, Thornton said.

The four survivors of the shooting were in stable condition around 5 a.m., Pope said.

One survivor was hospitalized at Sampson Regional Medical Center, and three others were taken to Bladen County Memorial Hospital in Elizabethtown. From Bladen, one injured person was transferred to Duke University Hospital, and two to New Hanover Regional Medical Center. END. END.

NOW-If they would just take our guns, that they can't legally have here, back home and straighten out the oppression of their own country, like we did a few hundred years ago, human life would begin to mean more to them. They have the fighting instinct, just confused objectives. Even though it may be at our expense, perhaps they will rise, and go home.   Mac.

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[Rastus]

......perhaps they will rise, and go home.   Mac.

Doubtful...one can always hope, though.