The auto bailout in action.

[JC5123]

Caught this story at lunch. Sadly, things like this don't even surprise me anymore.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/23/chrysler-auto-workers-caught-camera-drinking-beer-smoking-pot-lunch-break/

[twyacht]

Construction workers in the North East, primarily, have been doing this for decades. Either Dateline or 20/20 had a similar story on some NY union fellers,.that went across the street to the bar, had a "couple", and went back to work.

Seems it's written in very fine print in the union by-laws somewhere...must be traditional.

How's that new Chrysler/Jeep workin? Drive them proudly...

Not to single out Chrysler, I'm sure the tightening up is happening at Ford and Chevy. Maybe random daily breathelyzer and pee in a cup policies would help.

[tombogan03884]

Didn't see anything about the quality of work those particular guys were putting out.
That's life in manufacturing, I've only known 2 welders in 25 years who didn't drink or smoke weed, neither of them was very good.
I've also seen ISO and AS rated companies where the night shift all pitched in for a bag of weed for breaks.
That company's scrap rate was .02 %

[fightingquaker13]

Didn't see anything about the quality of work those particular guys were putting out.
That's life in manufacturing, I've only known 2 welders in 25 years who didn't drink or smoke weed, neither of them was very good.
I've also seen ISO and AS rated companies where the night shift all pitched in for a bag of weed for breaks.
That company's scrap rate was .02 %

Amen. Drugs of any sort and heavy machinery don't mix well. That said? There is a world of difference between having a couple and being a hazard. Peer pressure maintains the balance. A little buzz, no problem. Endanger me or my job because of your screw ups? Your shop steward will be the first to bust you. I worked in the sailboat trade in Fl. in high school and college (Soverell Marine for TW). I've seen it. Two or three is fine. A six pack? The boss is the least of your worries. Not justifying it, just saying that the results should be the final arbiter, not moral outrage. If it effects the product, fire them. If not, mind your own business.
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[twyacht]

Food for thought, any work related "work comp" claim, will just about require a blood test.op off a finger, crush their foot, etc,.. So all is well as long as they don't chop off a finger, crush their foot, etc,.. Good luck with that long term.  In my job, I can't afford to take the chance.  The consequences are too high to get high.

Burn up a 178' Benetti Mega Yacht, and see how many lawyers, insurance critters, international to boot, start demanding blood. Figuratively & literally.

Two or three is fine FQ? I guess that mindset is why I do fire refits on otherwise new boats, that the boat manufacturer just was minding their own business, when it came to its employees. The sub-panels were done worse than a high school car stereo install and a fire was only a matter of time.

IT'S CALLED PROFESSIONALISM!!!!  These clowns in the vid, simply don't have it.

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[tombogan03884]

TW, This country was built by guys who sent a kid to the store to get them buckets of beer for lunch.
While your comments about blood tests are true, the spirit of your post is the same "Temperance BS that led to that shining success known as prohibition.
Your comment about "professionalism ? You have no evidence to back it up. Professionalism is about doing good work, A persons personal habits have no impact on that. In fact, I would go so far as to say that stoners are better machinists than non stoners.

[Badgersmilk]

Used to know a guy who's favorite story about working on the GM pickup truck assembly line (which he'd done for 17 years, and still does) was that there was almost never a day he couldn't finish a 6 pack before the end of his shift WHILE ON THE LINE!

[Solus]

Used to know a guy who's favorite story about working on the GM pickup truck assembly line (which he'd done for 17 years, and still does) was that there was almost never a day he couldn't finish a 6 pack before the end of his shift WHILE ON THE LINE!

Less than a beer an hour.  It would depend upon his weight as to how much effect the beer would have.  And on his job to determine if that would affect the quality.  I wouldn't want my brain surgeon doing it, but the guy who bolts the muffler on my truck should be able to handle it.

[Ichiban]

I've seen it. Two or three is fine.
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Maybe in academia, not in the real world and definitely not in a manufacturing environment.  Does it happen?  All the time.  That doesn't make it right.

One of my biggest regrets is not calling security when I walked into the line maintenance shop at an integrated circuit foundry (lots of nasty chemicals and equipment operating in the kV range) and found the second shift clowns setting up to free base some cocaine.  At the time I didn't think that they would all get fired and I had to work with (indirectly) the survivors so I let it slide.  But I did start looking for other employment right after that.

[fightingquaker13]

Maybe in academia, not in the real world and definitely not in a manufacturing environment.  Does it happen?  All the time.  That doesn't make it right.

One of my biggest regrets is not calling security when I walked into the line maintenance shop at an integrated circuit foundry (lots of nasty chemicals and equipment operating in the kV range) and found the second shift clowns setting up to free base some cocaine.  At the time I didn't think that they would all get fired and I had to work with (indirectly) the survivors so I let it slide.  But I did start looking for other employment right after that.

I'm not saying its a good idea or that I endorse it. My point is that it is accepted as part of the culture. My limited experience in manufaturing was with very high end racing sailboats. They charged out the azz for these things and paid well. No slackers need apply. The culture of the workers was don't be drunk or high and get us in trouble, do something unsafe, or cause me extra work fixing your screw-up. If on the other hand, you were to just have a couple at lunch, no one cared. It was a self policing system.
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