Author Topic: My current carry setup: Glock 19 w/C-More STS Red Dot (3.5 MOA)  (Read 20144 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: My current carry setup: Glock 19 w/C-More STS Red Dot (3.5 MOA)
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 01:28:21 PM »
what I'd like to see is a holographic sight that was able to be housed in the rear sight, like LaserLyte's rear sight laser, that could project a red dot on a plane with the front sight and the target without the need of a screen. 

Don't know if it is possible or, if it is, can it be made that small and have a reasonable price.


http://www.warriortalknews.com/2011/01/the-new-trijicon-rmr-a.html

When I heard that Trijicon had redesigned the RMR to include an adjustment mechanism I got a little worried.  The main reason I had looked at the Trijicon RMR in the first place for handgun applications was that it had no adjustments or on-off switches to get messed up in daily concealed carry. I asked our Trijicon representative about this at SHOT Show.  His answer was to reach in his bag and give me one to work with and test. That is what I like about these guys...they put their money where their mouth is.

RM07_additional_thumb So I brought the RMR home and promptlyinstalled it on one of our in-house TSD Glocks.  This one was an all Lone Wolf weapon slide and frame.  It was worked over by our TSD staff and finished the slide in desert tan.  The RMR popped on easily and tightened down with no issues. TSD is the first to ever mount one of these on a handgun.

First order of things was to get used to how the unit worked.  On the left side and right side are strong pressure pads to increase and decrease dot intensity. The dot size has been reduced to 6.5 MOA. I set the brightness level to work with the ambient light and holstered the empty pistol.  I worked through my hour long dry practice session.  Drawing from our Seraphim holster, the dot intensity did not change at all, showing that the pressure needed to change the settings is more than what may be likely in holster carry. Nice.

IMG_1120 That done we worked with the settings.  There are several and the brightest setting is quite bright that even in the strong mile high AZ sun, it was sufficiently bright.

The highest setting will use up battery life very quickly so its not wise toleave it at that setting.  The lower settings are sufficient for low light use, and even workable with our night vision devices.

Nice again.

The Trijicon site says this about the Adjustable LED:

"Developed to improve precision and accuracy with any style or caliber of weapon, the Trijicon RMR™ (Ruggedized Miniature Reflex) is designed to be as durable as the legendary ACOG. The RM06 and RM08 are LED sights powered by a standard CR2032 battery. Housed in rugged forged aluminum, the RMR is extremely tough yet lightweight. New easy-to-use adjusters with audible clicks allow for quick windage and elevation adjustments. 

With eight available brightness settings, the reticle can be manually adjusted by pressing the plus or minus buttons on either side of the unit. To switch to auto adjust mode simply press both buttons simultaneously and release. To save battery life turn the optic off by pressing both buttons simultaneously and holding for 3 seconds.   

The new Trijicon RMR™ is tougher than any alternative and suitable for military, law enforcement and hunting applications." 
Magnification    1x
Bullet Drop Compensator    No
Length (In)    45mm
Weight (oz)    1.2 oz w/Battery
Illumination Source    3V Lithium Battery
Reticle Pattern    6.5 MOA Dot
Day Reticle Color    Red
Night Reticle Color    Red
Bindon Aiming Concept    n
Adjustment @ 100 yards (clicks/in)    1.0
Housing Material    Forged Aluminum

We should be getting our first delivery of these in a few weeks -

TRIJICON ADJUSTABLE RMR

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Re: My current carry setup: Glock 19 w/C-More STS Red Dot (3.5 MOA)
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2011, 10:22:33 PM »
nice

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Re: My current carry setup: Glock 19 w/C-More STS Red Dot (3.5 MOA)
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2011, 08:06:58 AM »
They are getting very close.

I was just thinking the other day that using a guild rod laser and then a low profile EOTech type red dot would count as back up for a failing electronic device.  Wouldn't it?

It looks like this one is almost low enough to provide co-witness with the iron sights too.  Wonder if they could make it lower down the center by making it a bit higher on the outside left and right edges.
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Re: My current carry setup: Glock 19 w/C-More STS Red Dot (3.5 MOA)
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2011, 08:15:15 AM »

Solus, they had that back in the mid 90's.. it was called an EPT or EPC or something.. I have one in a box of crap somewhere... WAYYY too small of a window to be of any use.


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Comparing a dot and a Laser is apples to oranges.... two different things for two different situations, used in two different ways.

A Laser is really a Tertiary aiming device, especially good for when you cannot reach a proper shooting position (extended, etc) or for when there is no contrast for proper sight use and your need for precision at the time would normally call for sighted fire.

A red-dot is a replacement Secondary aiming device for use when your need for precision dictates some type of sight. It replaces "iron" sights.

As always, primary aiming in defensive shooting should be done with proper & consistent positioning of the firearm while your focus is on the threat... kinesthetic Alignment.

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What I was getting at is the reported ability of a holographic image to be projected in mid air without any screen or window needed.

If that would be possible to house it in the rear sight, then you would have both iron sights and a red dot type sight with no screen to be damaged or adding to bulk.

Having a laser in the same unit would provide everything you need with the downside of having all your eggs in one basket.

 
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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Re: My current carry setup: Glock 19 w/C-More STS Red Dot (3.5 MOA)
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2011, 10:58:29 AM »
Remember the old Weaver "Quick point" ?
I would like to see that updated . Shrink it and replace the red "wire" with a Fiber Optic or Tritium F/O.
All the benefits of a red dot with no batteries, in a nearly unbreakable very rugged  package.

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