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Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« on: October 18, 2010, 12:11:29 AM »
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/army-to-redesign-baggy-womens-uniform/story-e6frea73-1225940257031
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THE US Army is testing its first-ever combat uniform expressly designed to fit the female figure, a move seen as an overdue effort to make 160,000 US women soldiers more comfortable.

Don't expect a camouflage haute couture revolution for America's military women; the changes will be visibly slight, although they are important, said the first person to try on the women's army combat uniform, or ACU.

"The unisex uniform was a little bit baggy," Major Sequana Robinson said, undoubtedly summing up the attitudes of thousands of female soldiers who for decades have had to make do with ill-fitting fatigues.

"The goal is not to have female soldiers accentuate their curves, but... it alleviates some of the excess material" that had come to typify the unisex uniform worn by far more men than women.

For years the US Army offered standard-issue unisex ACUs, which sought to neutralize gender differences but were often considered uncomfortable and unwieldy by female troops.



Robinson, assistant product manager for soldier clothing at the Program Executive Office, which is responsible for what US soldiers wear or carry and is preparing the uniform, was modeling the ACU prototype at this military base south of the capital Washington.

Some 600 women soldiers will comprehensively test the garments beginning next January. If approved by the Army Uniform Board, the female battle garments, which have undergone five years of study and design tweaking, could be rolled out as early as 2012.

Design of the new fatigues is the latest step toward gender parity in the US military, where women have broken into most areas of service and command.

Women have served in some way in the US Army since 1775. And the Pentagon has issued female uniform ensembles for decades, albeit for ceremonial events or non-combat positions.

But it does not allow women, who now make up 14 percent of the army, to be assigned to ground combat units, although they are in support units and serve as gunners, truck drivers, military police, and helicopter pilots.

In the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, where US troops have been fighting insurgencies that use unconventional forces and tactics, US women have increasingly found themselves in the thick of battle, when having well-fitting clothing in extreme environments can suddenly prove critical.

The woman's ACU is "definitely a first for the army," said Mary Harwood, a so-called human factors engineer for the US Army who played a key role in the difficult but key changes to the khaki and digitized camouflage uniforms.

They have made "adjustments to fit the anthropomorphic measurement of the body," she added.

What women troops will find is a garment far more accommodating of the female form.

Among the key changes are the addition of vents in back that provide space for a woman's bust; narrowing of the shoulders; replacement of trouser drawstrings with elastic waistbands; adjustment of waist-to-hip ratios; and alterations to the front and back rise.

Or, as Harwood conceded in language only a fashionista could love: "more material... to accommodate the buttocks."

Other changes include a lengthening of the coat over the hips, and repositioning of rank insignias, sleeve pockets, and elbow and knee patches.

The army said feedback from soldiers complaining that the ACU "does not properly fit most females" prompted the new design, and that preliminary tests showed the uniforms are "less bulky, more comfortable, economical and have improved aesthetics for female soldiers."

The ACU is the successor to the Battle Dress Uniform, or BDU, which the US military had assigned its troops from 1981 until 2005.

Robinson said at first she was concerned that the uniform "was going to be too tight, and unnecessarily cling to a woman's figure."

But the major quickly warmed to the idea of trading in her unisex ACU for more form-fitting fatigues that make her feel like a professional soldier.

"I'm not wearing my brother's pants, I'm wearing something made for me."


would of though they would of done this years ago 
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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 01:17:56 AM »
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/army-to-redesign-baggy-womens-uniform/story-e6frea73-1225940257031

"Among the key changes are the addition of vents in back that provide space for a woman's bust"

would of though they would of done this years ago 


A pleasant thought, especially when close dancing or hugging, but shouldn't those vents be in front?  Oh, and as much as I like the airing out of breasts, I wasn't aware they were in need of venting.


More seriously, wasn't the tailoring of uniforms once a common occurrence?  Or only for officers?
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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 02:31:48 AM »
More seriously, wasn't the tailoring of uniforms once a common occurrence?  Or only for officers?

that is what I though when they were fitted properly
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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 10:41:52 AM »
I don't believe any but officers bothered with having their Fatigue uniforms tailored, maybe DI's and Recruiters.

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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 10:53:07 AM »
I don't believe any but officers bothered with having their Fatigue uniforms tailored, maybe DI's and Recruiters.
there is (was) another issue with that. The BDUs we got back in the day had an IR reppelent spray on them. Ironing supposedly killed it (didn't stop sarge from wanting them pressed ::)), but in theory drycleaning and irons were no nos. I assume that means you couldn't get them custom made like you can class As and dress blues if you were so inclined. I guess you could still take your stuff to a tailor for a nip and tuck, but if the problem was that the butt was too small, the bust too tight and the crotch rise hit at knee level, I'm not sure how much they could do. It does seem like a good idea and relatively low dollar. Its like the adjustable stock on the M4. Having a proper LOP has got to improve marksmanship across the board.
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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 01:14:57 PM »
No photos??????
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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 05:31:02 PM »
No photos??????

May I offer some humble suggestions that, while impractical for everyday work, are sure to be a morale boost to some troops...





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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 06:19:38 PM »
FQ, it wasn't the ironing from my understanding, it was the starch, that neutralized the IR stuff,  Putting a spit shine on your boots was also alleged to have some sort of bad effect, They were designed to be buff shined, but I forget the details.

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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 06:36:12 PM »
I can only speak for MY Navy time but we wouldn't be admonished for an ironed shirt or spitshined boots.  Granted, I wasn't in the normal Navy so sometimes, just sometimes, I need to be reminded of the proper attire to be worn by a Petty Officer!

Socks?  Underwear?  Cover?  Haircut?  You mean I have to sew on that second stripe before I get paid for it?

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Re: Army to redesign 'baggy' women's uniform
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 06:41:55 PM »
Hair cuts ? We had a CO. called $100 Heller, when he got transferred my pay went up $100 a month, didn't matter if you needed a haircut or stabbed your bunkie, $100 fine.  ;D

 

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