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hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« on: October 19, 2010, 02:08:40 PM »
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 05:22:30 PM »
Honest question. No judgement, just curious. Would you really care if a guy or gal in your unit were gay, as long as they did their job and kept their behavior on the professional level? Just wondering,
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 05:28:56 PM »
Probably not. BUT Homosexual behavior goes against the morals and values of the armed services.
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 05:32:12 PM »
No different than having men and women serving together as far as I'm concerned.

If he's gay does that mean he'll rape you? I just don't get the big deal, but thats just me.
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 05:41:23 PM »
I wouldn't want to shower with a homosexual.
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 05:45:22 PM »
I wouldn't want to shower with a homosexual.

its only a issue if one of you makes it one.

while you can't control other people, one good ass kicking tends to get the point across.
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 05:55:39 PM »
For the most part, they want to be left alone.  If they make advances and you do not respond positively they usually leave you alone.  I know...I was hit on while in a musical at a local theater!

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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 05:58:05 PM »
I'm ok with it as long as the hetero men are permitted to shower with the hetero women, being as the homosexuals currently get to shower with their gender of choice. But that will never happen.

Real world:  it's a MORALE issue, not a MORAL one. In a perfect world, it shouldn't matter. But just like I disagree with lowering standards to allow women/small statured minorities on police and fire forces, I disagree with doing anything that will lower the effectiveness of a fighting force. This certainly will.
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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 08:48:28 PM »
I served with homosexual men and lesbian women.  Granted they weren't open about it but we all knew and for the most part, no one cared.

If anyone in them military thinks they haven't served with a homosexual individual, WAKE UP!

Today, the military is lowering physical enlistment standards to accommodate for the fact that our kids are FAT!  If anything is going to reduce the fighting effectiveness, being obese certainly has more negative effect than who we sleep with.

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Re: hell the USMC has been doing this for years
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 09:13:15 PM »
I don't really care one way or the other. The problem I've got with the whole situation is that a federal judge can override military regs. How long will it be before the chain of command undergoes judicial review?

What needs to happen, is an Admiral or General needs to stand up to the Judiciary. Their career would be over in the military, but just starting politically. Military oversight is a function of Congress, not federal judges.
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