hell the USMC has been doing this for years

[Solus]

Served with a homosexual while I was in the service.  

We were in the 3rd Inf. Div. G2 section and he did the job fine.

He was in a room of his own.  The only single bunk room in the barracks and I'm sure he was placed there to avoid concerns.

He also was up at around 2:30 in the morning to shower and shave so he seldom encountered anyone there.

I had no problem at all with him.

The G2 asked me if I thought he was homosexual and I told him I was sure of  it.  saw him  necking in his car with a guy from the next company.  G2 asked if he did his job and I said he did it very well.  G2 asked of he ever gave me any problems and I told him he never gave any of us any trouble.   He remained in the section until I rotated out.

But....my question is where does everyone shower??  

Women aren't expected to shower with men and I'd say the easy rule is that no one should be required to shower with anyone who might find them a "sexual interest".......  and that boils down to that straight men and women still can use a separate group shower, but any gay soldier would get a private shower.

Now, I assume GI's still use communal showers?   I know a lot may have changed since I was in back in the last half of the 60's.

[fightingquaker13]

You've never showered with a girl? I mean this in a platonic way of course. I was always into outdoor sports. Canoeing, backpackpacking, climbing, sailing etc. The clubs in HS and college, as well as FTXs in ROTC were coed. By day 3, no one cared. The rule was "Japanese privacy". By that, I mean, when you shared the creek or hose or whatever was there, you just kept your eyes and hands to yourself. The girl you would have loved to have seen naked under normal circumstances? On the backpacking trip or kayak trip, you just didn't notice, because to do so would have been severly uncool and made you a pariah. Maybe its a generational thing (I'm 40), maybe its just a bunch of college kids scamming a van and gear from the school and eating out of cans to make a trip, but there was a definate set of rules. No scamming on the trip.
Oddly, when I went on the Old Man's Mid-Life crisis rafting trip in the Grand Canyon, the same rules applied. Peeing off the raft or skinny diping in the river to bathe was ok, even among staid middle aged types. The same rules applied. No one was on display, no one wanted attention, we all just wanted a bath. This wasn't a hippie commune, just a random commercial raft trip with 15 guests and 6 guides that had never met before. I guess the point is, if there is an understanding of what the rules are in a given set of circumstances, normal expectations fall away. The idea of my dad getting naked in public? Hell, I'd bet the farm against it. There, where everyone was quick and discreet and it was just something you did every day or two? It didn't phase him. Am I just weird, or does this make sense?
FQ13

[cookie62]

I work in a chemical plant that makes what is essentially powder and dust. By the end of a 12 hour shift it's all over you. We have community showers, at any one time at shift change there is 4 or 5 guys in each of the 2 showers(one in each locker room). Nobody pays any attention to the others, you even have the odd guy that walks around toweling himself off. Just no big deal. And yes we have and do have gays working there. Do they get there own shower house?

[tombogan03884]

Morals have no place in the profession of killing.
I don't care if the guy fucks chickens as long as he does his job and draws his own share of the incoming.
However, Sodomy, (oral or anal sex ) are criminal acts under the UCMJ, an admitted Homo has implicated himself in a criminal activity, 5th Amendment case. That's why BJ Clinton went with the "DADT" idea.

And No, FQ, I don't do "Platonic" coed showers, if she's in there with me she is going to spend some time against the wall.   

[fightingquaker13]

Morals have no place in the profession of killing.
I don't care if the guy fucks chickens as long as he does his job and draws his own share of the incoming.
However, Sodomy, (oral or anal sex ) are criminal acts under the UCMJ, an admitted Homo has implicated himself in a criminal activity, 5th Amendment case. That's why BJ Clinton went with the "DADT" idea.

And No, FQ, I don't do "Platonic" coed showers, if she's in there with me she is going to spend some time against the wall.   

Be very glad you didn't grow up in my generation. You would have had your "against the wall" time. You just wouldn't have enjoyed it very much. Do I need to repost those "Women of the IDF" pictures, or are you following me?
FQ13

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[TAB]

Morals have no place in the profession of killing.
I don't care if the guy fucks chickens as long as he does his job and draws his own share of the incoming.
However, Sodomy, (oral or anal sex ) are criminal acts under the UCMJ, an admitted Homo has implicated himself in a criminal activity, 5th Amendment case. That's why BJ Clinton went with the "DADT" idea.

And No, FQ, I don't do "Platonic" coed showers, if she's in there with me she is going to spend some time against the wall.   

[tombogan03884]

That one showers alone, even the cockroaches leave when that pig waddles in.

[cookie62]

now I'll never get to sleep!!!!!!!!!!

[fightingquaker13]

Banned! I want him banned!
M'lette, please, my God!. I just can't describe the horror. If you won't ban him, at least assign him to scrub all those "hard to reach places".
FQ13

[TAB]

That one showers alone, even the cockroaches leave when that pig waddles in.

to be fair I don't think there is room in that shower for a cockroach.


to give you a idea on the scale.( yeah like you need to know)  the most common standard shower sizes
32x32  36x36, 34x36 and 34x48.