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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2010, 08:28:49 PM »
I just finished my cheapest AR build for a friend on a serious budget. $550 with all mil-spec quality parts on a forged receiver.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2010, 08:41:12 PM »
Quote from: bafsu92 on November 15, 2010, 08:28:49 PM
I just finished my cheapest AR build for a friend on a serious budget. $550 with all mil-spec quality parts on a forged receiver.

we gotta get you a picture posting tutor.... ;)
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2010, 09:05:00 PM »
I put it together at his house and didn't have my camera with me. He's supposed to get some pics of it and send them to me.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2010, 06:51:04 AM »
Quote from: bafsu92 on November 15, 2010, 08:28:49 PM
I just finished my cheapest AR build for a friend on a serious budget. $550 with all mil-spec quality parts on a forged receiver.

 8) How a bout a parts list while we wait for the pictures?
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2010, 01:01:16 PM »
Im hoping to start a decent project at first of the year.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2010, 03:29:37 PM »
Quote from: oldkat69 on November 16, 2010, 06:51:04 AM
8) How a bout a parts list while we wait for the pictures?

Yeah, +1.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2010, 04:39:22 PM »
Quote from: PegLeg45 on November 16, 2010, 03:29:37 PM
Yeah, +1.

Gunsmoke Lower (a company out of Okeechobee, FL who has their uppers forged from the same vendor as Spikes) - $69
Palmetto State Armory classic LPK with 6 pos stock & Buffer - $99 Total Lower cost $167 (You can also use the Plum Crazy complete lower for $125 for an even bigger savings.

DTI 14.5" M4 profile 1-7 chrome lined barrel with FSP & gas tube from Gun Broker - $125 shipped (These or similar are pretty easy to find on GB for anywhere from $100 - $150 but this build it was $113.74 + $10 shipping so I rounded up a bit).
Cerro Forge Complete upper receiver from Gunbroker $83 (I bought 6 a while back for $78ea + $16 shipping so I averaged it at $83 for 1, this is a pretty regular price because I just got 2 more for $78ea + $9 shipping the other day from a different GB vendor)
Barrel Nut & Delta ring assy. $10.50 (PSA regular price)
Flashhider $10 (We used a Phantom picked up from arfcom classifieds for $10 but if you can't find that deal you could use an A2 for $10 or less)
BCM full auto BCG - $135 (you can scrimp here but I won't. I do have a good source for a $99 full auto carrier that looks as good as the BCM though. I've got one in a rifle and it's doing fine with about 2500rds so far)
Mil-Spec forged CH - $15 (plans on swapping to a BCM Gunfighter for $45 soon though)

This give a build total of $545.50 - I had a Magpul rear BUIS I gave him so that saved him from buying a rear sight but you can pick up a decent used (or the ARMS that Magpul coppied) For $20-$25 with minimal effort. The only thing left to buy was mags and ammo (I gave him a old sling I had in my parts box as well) Botach has Lancer mags for $10 or a couple places have C-Products Mil_Spec contract style mags for $8-$9.

Granted I had all the tools and experience needed to put this together for him and I didn't charge any labor but he bought the beer and pizza for our build night. The good thing is he could probably just about build another rifle himself now or at the very least understands enough to properly maintain it. I'd compare the quality to being equal or better than any $700-$1000 retail M4 like the DPMS, Rock River, M&P etc. If you're really concerned about the brand I can find Doublestar lowers for $99 and just bought some Armalite lowers for $129 so another $30-$60 if that matters to you. I've actually used a few of these Gunsmoke lowers and never had an issue which I can't say for Rock River or DPMS, both of which I've had to make adjustments to the trigger or hammer holes or other issues.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2010, 10:20:00 PM »
Thanks, bafsu....sounds like some of the component prices are back in the ballpark of where they were 2 1/2 years ago (ante BHO) when I was really looking at a build of my own. Stripped lowers were running around $90 then.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2010, 09:02:19 AM »
Quote from: PegLeg45 on November 16, 2010, 10:20:00 PM
Thanks, bafsu....sounds like some of the component prices are back in the ballpark of where they were 2 1/2 years ago (ante BHO) when I was really looking at a build of my own. Stripped lowers were running around $90 then.
A lot of stripped lowers are still in the $90 - $125 range but there are more than a few out there in the $65-$80 range too. THe big difference is 6 months ago you were lucky to find any LPK for $75 and now there are multiple choices available for under $50. The ones from PSA with a the full buffer assy and stock for $99 is a great deal. They also do a Magpul MOE kit for $149 and even an ultimate kit that has a CTR stock, MIAD grip and Geiselle SSA trigger for $369 which is a great deal to do a high end build. If you watch places liek gunbroker and ar15.com you can really do a cheap build if you're not in a rush. I just got a DPMS LPK on gunbroker for $33 and a like new ACS stock on arfcom for $60. Usually when I go to do a build I'm only short a part or two so I have very little out of pocket at the time. The problem is nobody really seems to be buying rifles right now or if they are it's a DPMS on sale for $699 with a hard case and 2 mags.
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Re: my first ar15
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2010, 09:25:03 AM »
is spikes lowers any good I heard they dont always keep trigger in tight large pin or small. I personally like yankee mill but they are high priced.
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