Chronological List Of Islamic Terrorist Attacks, 1968-2004. Think It's Short?

[fightingquaker13]

Tab, you are wrong on this, If you operate that way there is no point in them  keeping the hostages alive.
If you do negotiate with them, some times you have to even do it in good faith to set them up for later killing.

Tough call there. Imagine if Carter had held a public memorial service for the Hostages in '79. "We mourn these fallen heroes of our nation, yet we will never give in to the demands of tyrants and justice shall be done....yadda, yadda. yadda". I doubt there would have been a pair of clean undies in Tehran.
FQ13 (I know it was Carter, but for God's sake, he was one of the first officers in our nuclear subs. That gives him some "scary" points in anyone's book)

[TAB]

Tab, you are wrong on this, If you operate that way there is no point in them  keeping the hostages alive.
If you do negotiate with them, some times you have to even do it in good faith to set them up for later killing.

I'm not saying not to talk with them, just don't give into thier demands.

[tombogan03884]

No freeing other terrorists, that was the big thing in the 60's, 70's.
but if all they will settle for cash it can always be recovered from the body.
Here's something else to think about, The way they got the President elect of Lebanon, Pierre Gamayel was by renting the apartment above his they replaced the carpet with a copy made of Semtex......    

You just can't trust anybody these days  

Darn near as elegant as the anthrax scare.

[Solus]

My mother proposed a solution to the Iran Hostage situation in Iran back when Carter fumbled around with it.

She said the US should announce we intended to retrieve the bodies of the US Citizens being held in the country then land enough of a force to overrun the country and march through it cutting a swath of destruction to where ever our Intel had them being held.

There may be no reason for those holding these hostages to keep them alive, but there would be no reason for any future hostages to be taken either.  All it would get was destruction rained upon the country who allowed the hostages to be held in their territory.

 

[tombogan03884]

Solus, if there is no point in taking hostages then they just start off by killing every one in sight, like the Japanese red army faction at Lod airport or current suicide bombers.

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[Solus]

Solus, if there is no point in taking hostages then they just start off by killing every one in sight, like the Japanese red army faction at Lod airport or current suicide bombers.

We still trash the country to get the bodies.

[tombogan03884]

So lets bomb Columbus Ohio because some guy blew himself up ?
You miss my point Solus, ( and you made me walk over to the darn map  )
If they take hostages, we pay them off they run away, we track them to some one else's back yard and kill them.
because the alternative is that they come to our yard and kill themselves, taking a lot of us with them, Does the name Mohammad Atta ring a bell ?

[Solus]

If we blew up Columbus (not a bad choice, if Cleveland is already rubble - the mayor of Cleveland is acting like mayor Daley by not adhering to state mandated CC laws an non-exemption rulings by the state AG...Columbus mayor comes in second to him) because they allowed terrorists to hold hostages in their city, I bet most everyone in Dayton would be rushing to turn in the next batch of terrorists if they showed up in Dayton with a  new batch of hostages.


Sorry for the slam on Cleveland and Columbus, but get rid of those mayors...they make yas all look bad 

[ncrguy]

I never understood why Carter did not send them a message saying they had 24 hours to release the hostages or we would send the B-52's to bomb Tehran until we got tired of making bombs? If he would have done that and had the resolve to back it up, the list may be short quite a few events. I know it was during the cold war but I think the USSR would not have butted in except to maybe facilitate the release of the hostages and portray themselves as being "good" to make us look bad in the eyes of the world.

[tombogan03884]

I never understood why Carter did not send them a message saying they had 24 hours to release the hostages or we would send the B-52's to bomb Tehran until we got tired of making bombs? If he would have done that and had the resolve to back it up, the list may be short quite a few events. I know it was during the cold war but I think the USSR would not have butted in except to maybe facilitate the release of the hostages and portray themselves as being "good" to make us look bad in the eyes of the world.

Because he was a f*#king coward.