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tombogan03884

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Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:31:39 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101027/ap_on_re_us/us_arizona_execution

By AMANDA LEE MYERS and ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS, Associated Press Amanda Lee Myers And Andrew Welsh-huggins, Associated Press – 1 hr 41 mins ago

FLORENCE, Ariz. – Facing a nationwide shortage of a lethal injection drug, Arizona has taken an unusual step that other death penalty states may soon follow: get their supplies from another country.

Such a move, experts say, raises questions about the effectiveness of the drug. But it also may further complicate executions in the 35 states that allow them, as inmates challenge the use of drugs not approved by federal inspectors for use in the U.S.

Arizona said Tuesday that it got its sodium thiopental from Great Britain, the first time a state has acknowledged obtaining the drug from outside the United States since the shortage began slowing executions in the spring.

"This drug came from a reputable place," Chief Deputy Attorney General Tim Nelson said. "There's all sorts of wild speculation that it came from a third-world country, and that's not accurate."

Nelson said the state revealed the drug's origins to let the public know that its supply is trustworthy and to dispel rumors. However, he did not name the company that manufactured it.

Without assurances of the drug's quality, many questions will be raised, including its effectiveness and how it should be handled, and would serve as a basis for lawsuits, said Deborah Denno, a law professor at Fordham University.

"The impact could be huge," Denno said. "The source of the thiopental is critical."

Tuesday night, Arizona executed Jeffrey Landrigan for a 1989 murder in the state's first execution since 2007. Landrigan died by injection at a state prison in Florence at 10:26 p.m. after a stay issued by a federal judge was lifted by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Landrigan's lawyers had argued he could be suffocated painfully if the sodium thiopental doesn't render him unconscious. In lethal injections, sodium thiopental makes an inmate unconscious before a second drug paralyzes him and a third drug stops his heart.

Hospira Inc. of Lake Forest, Ill., the sole U.S. manufacturer of the drug, has blamed the shortage on unspecified problems with its raw-material suppliers and said new batches will not be available until January at the earliest


So complain to Customer service.
We should have stuck with rope, it's eco friendly     ;D
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fightingquaker13

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 02:40:47 AM »
I was going to ask about the availability of domestically produced rope about halfway through the article. Oddly, Tom beat me to it. ;D There is also the very effecient Chinese model of a bullet to the back of the head. A great way to dispose of aging .308 or 12 gauge slugs, and a lot quicker than the drip of poison, sleepy juice or not. Personally, I'd prefer this method.
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PS, Doesnt a massive OD of morphine kill pretty much instantly?

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 08:52:52 AM »
What the heck; thanks to the "war on drugs", there are plenty of confiscated narcotics around. Put them to good use and work up some hot shots to do the job.

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 09:52:03 AM »
No shortage at the veterinarian clinics. Take them there. $50.00 + $65.00 for a "large breed" cremation. What's the problem?  Bill T.

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 10:57:41 AM »
No shortage at the veterinarian clinics. Take them there. $50.00 + $65.00 for a "large breed" cremation. What's the problem?  Bill T.

The problem is, Fido would object to being around that type of trash   ;D

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 11:05:19 AM »
The 9mm Makarov was designed for the "Bullet in the Back of the Head" mission.

Use the right tool for the job  :D :D



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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 03:21:27 PM »
just OD them on something.  I'm sure they would even enjoy it.   morphine, for example would work well and its cheap.( its just all the paper work that makes it cost $$$$)


Then again, for my $.02  a 22 shell, that costs $.02 works great too.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 06:32:43 PM »
He's gone.
Let's just hope they offed the right guy.

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/Ray_Krone.php

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Re: Not enough poison ? WTF ?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 08:23:11 PM »
kmitch, I'm working on just such a case here in southern WV. These cases down here are usually associated with DNA, but the one I'm working on now doesn't concern rape so no DNA evidence was taken. The doctor has provided physical evidence that the "young one" was still intact and there is no physical evidence of ANY violation whatsoever! The supposed offender was coerced into a confession and convicted on CIRCUMSTANTCIAL evidence only! He was a 55yr old law-abiding man that simply hugged a step-grand-daughter (12yrs old), that ran into his arms, as kids will do. I won't get in to details but this "illiterate old man" was set up by a corrupt LE officer having an affair with the girl's mother. No Miranda rights, no phone-call, just sign this piece of paper and you can go home! Needless to say, this man went to county jail, county court, and then STATE PRISON! He has been imprisoned for 7yrs now for the "crime" of hugging a young girl, and I am on a mission to expose this case to the public! I have been in touch with theinnocenceproject.com, but they "normally" work with DNA cases. They are interested in this case but need court transcripts and his so-called "public-defender"  lawyer records. I'm working on getting ALL court transcripts and case evidence but I'm running into problems getting it. I have all of the forms, signed by the defendant, to release these records to me.  I'm also having problems getting the interrogation video. It seems that "public records" here in WV, are not quite so "public"!

ANYONE got any suggestions?

 
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