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kmitch200

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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 12:36:51 PM »
TSA Unionization: A $30 Million Annual Gift to Union Bosses
* NUMBER OF TERRORISTS CAUGHT BY THE TSA: 0
That's the key stat!
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 12:46:54 PM »
That's the key stat!
But, lets try a little Cheney logic: "There hasn't been a sucessful terrorist attack on the US since the war in Iraq".
TSA version: "There hasn't been another 911 since those brave and unionized men and women started feeling your junk". :P
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 09:47:39 PM »
But, lets try a little Cheney logic: "There hasn't been a sucessful terrorist attack on the US since the war in Iraq".
TSA version: "There hasn't been another 911 since those brave and unionized men and women started feeling your junk". :P
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 09:58:10 PM »
 
Am I wrong?
A crisis occurs.
The government overeacts (TSA, Patriot Act, War in Iraq etc.)
The crisis does not reoccur.
THEREFORE the over reaction was justified. ::)
Its the "Stick a bannana in your ear to prevent an elphant attack" plan. "Why should I keep the bannana in my ear"?
"Well, you haven't been attacked by an elephant have you"?
Or if you prefer latin: "Cum hoc ergo proptor hoc". Translation: Correlation between variables does not prove causality, merely correlation.
This isn't a partisan issue, just historical experience. If you must have a Democrat as the villian, try Rahm's quote that "you should never let a crisis go to waste". Thing is, that's not liberal thinking or conservative thinking, that's the way ALL politicians and bureacrats think.
Save the partisanship for those who care about either party. Politicians and bureacrats are a different breed from the rest of us who choose to make an honest living.
FQ13 who would note that the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA were created under the Bush and Cheney administration.

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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2010, 10:21:50 PM »
Am I wrong?
A crisis occurs.
The government overeacts (TSA, Patriot Act, War in Iraq etc.)
The crisis does not reoccur.
THEREFORE the over reaction was justified. ::)
Its the "Stick a bannana in your ear to prevent an elphant attack" plan. "Why should I keep the bannana in my ear"?
"Well, you haven't been attacked by an elephant have you"?
Or if you prefer latin: "Cum hoc ergo proptor hoc". Translation: Correlation between variables does not prove causality, merely correlation.
This isn't a partisan issue, just historical experience. If you must have a Democrat as the villian, try Rahm's quote that "you should never let a crisis go to waste". Thing is, that's not liberal thinking or conservative thinking, that's the way ALL politicians and bureacrats think.
Save the partisanship for those who care about either party. Politicians and bureacrats are a different breed from the rest of us who choose to make an honest living.
FQ13 who would note that the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA were created under the Bush and Cheney administration.

Touchy, aren't we?  First of all, what's a "bannana"?  That was a really long-winded response to 2 gifs.  Can you please just once post something without turning it into an attack on Bush, Cheney, Rove, (insert evil republican here)... and then coming back with "it's not a democrat or republican thing"?  That's all I ask.  Otherwise, we'll NOT send you to the corner.   ;)

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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2010, 10:44:25 PM »
Touchy, aren't we?  First of all, what's a "bannana"?  That was a really long-winded response to 2 gifs.  Can you please just once post something without turning it into an attack on Bush, Cheney, Rove, (insert evil republican here)... and then coming back with "it's not a democrat or republican thing"?  That's all I ask.  Otherwise, we'll NOT send you to the corner.   ;)
You've got a deal. All I ask is that you understand  that as a Libertarian, my attacks are on government power in general, not a party. I'm just attacking those who wielded it at a particular time. Here's how it will go. Unless names are relevant for the post, I will refer to all politicians as "Bob". As in "Bob logic supports the Patriot Act". Or "Bob supports comprehensive immigration reform". This isn't sarcasm either, as both parties tend to support the same agenda. Henceforth, I will try to leave names out of it. No sarcasm, and I make no guarantees, but I'll try to keep partisanship out of it. Just understand, I hate the Dems as much as the GOP. :-\
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2010, 01:41:59 AM »
TSA Unionization: A $30 Million Annual Gift to Union Bosses
* NUMBER OF TERRORISTS CAUGHT BY THE TSA: 0
That's the key stat!

No it isn't Mitch, The Key stat is how many the passengers have apprehended, let's see,
The shoe bomber and the underware bomber come to mind off the top of my head,
That makes it TSA - 0      Citizens 2+


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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2010, 04:40:57 AM »
For now, airports can "opt out" of TSA, and contract with other security firms. Smaller regional airports may not be able to afford it, but larger ones are considering it. (some of them)...

Had to fight through two admin's for a "Passenger Bill Of Rights",.....maybe as a flying public we can unionize. >:(
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2010, 04:59:25 AM »
Had to fight through two admin's for a "Passenger Bill Of Rights",.....maybe as a flying public we can unionize. >:(
We are unionized. We negotiate our contract every two years. I don't like all of the right wingers the Tea Party put in office. However I LOVE, that a grassroots movement sent a big honking wake up call to DC. Maybe they'll listen. Its less about policies and more about arrogance. The Dems and GOP don't get it yet. This was made manifest in the GOP keeping Boehner and McConell and the Dems Reid and Pelosi. Hopefully they'll get the message though. Because if they don't? I'll be investing in tar, feathers and pitchforks. ;)
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Re: TSA to go Union... It just keeps gettin' better...
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2010, 05:09:09 PM »
We need a viable third party the existing 2 are focused on getting reelected, we need a Party that actually represents the Constitution instead of Socialism or big business.
As it stands we are no better than the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany except that both ballots are the same color,There are only the lesser of evils, neither one represents We the People.

We are unionized. We negotiate our contract every two years. I don't like all of the right wingers the Tea Party put in office. However I LOVE, that a grassroots movement sent a big honking wake up call to DC. Maybe they'll listen. Its less about policies and more about arrogance. The Dems and GOP don't get it yet. This was made manifest in the GOP keeping Boehner and McConell and the Dems Reid and Pelosi. Hopefully they'll get the message though. Because if they don't? I'll be investing in tar, feathers and pitchforks. ;)
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That's crap FQ, when was the last time either party actually overturned a bad law ?
The last one I can think of was 1930 when Prohibition was repealed.

 

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