How Safe Is Cocked & Locked?

[MrSteve]

Thanks for that post jaybethel... I have to be honest I hate the DA trigger in my Sig, way to tight and to long IMO, but, lots of time to change your mind, if.

[texcaliber]

Hey Mr. Steve!
I am also a fan of (Sig 2022) DA/SA. A lot of people poo-poo it (varying trigger pulls, etc.) but my feeling is that the DA at 10-12 pounds is a HELL of a safety. First shot hits and/or has shock value, following shots at 4lb pulll. It's not for everyone, but I like it.

Having said that, I LOVE the trigger on my 1911 and I think you will find the nice triggers intoxicating compared to the Sig Pros. Occasionally at the range I have pulled the trigger and forgotten to release the thumb safety. This is a real concern in a gunfight, obviously. But as others have said here, even if the thumb safety somehow gets pushed off in the holster, the gun should not discharge without depressing the other safeties as well. Good system.

correcting your grip to ride your thumb on top of your safety will make sure you never forget that on again. Also remembering "The Fonz" is a good way to flick your safe on and be ready to holster or then thumb-down to reengage target/threat.
As for the LDA system, I think you shooting one is the only way to find out if its for you. (read either rent, beg, borrow, or buy)
IMO you will LOVE it. The only guns i am lusting for which are pistols are the Tac-5 which is a 5" 9mm LDA and the new M&P9 5".

tex

[wisconsin]

Yes and he was the "The Man" and he lived a long great life I am sure.

Any thoughts on the LDA? When it comes to the LDA, I "really" like the "PXT LDA High Capacity Limited", but I am not sure about the size for carry, I guess a good holster could fix almost any concealed carry problems.

On SA I am looking at the "PXT Hi-Cap Single-Action Limited", again size... I guess my eyes like big guns, but both having a fiber sight on front might not be a good choice for carry.

I own a Black Watch Companion (CX745S) LDA 45. The trigger reset takes some getting use to. If you spend alot of time with it no problem. All my SA 1911's are easier to get use to. However they would have to be cocked and locked for CCW. If that is an issue for you. Then the LDA would be right up your alley. No cocked & locked there.  On the home page of DRTV at the top you'll notice DRTV videos, click on it. Then click on" Latest On DRTV".There is MB's video on Para's LDA System. It worth a look and should answer some of your questions. Good Luck

[Swamp Yankee]

My main carry gun is a PCX745 and I always carry in condition 1. I prefer the Commander size and single stack for the size and weight. If you need more than 8 rounds to accomplish your goal you should practice more. If they do not drop by the second round the third is a head shot. Then you still have 5 more for some one else if needed. one well placed round is better than 12 or 13 sprayed all over the place. A couple of people I know have the LDA and like the trigger system, most say pull is around 6 lbs. As far as a Tail on the grip safety isn't the hammer spurless on these models. I also do not use a thumb break holster being a lefty it gets in the way of the safety. I disengage it automaticly with my index finger on the draw before I get it out of the holster.

Mike Mc

[Majer]

Cocked & Locked is only as safe as the person holding the firearm. I have carried a 1911 Cocked & Locked for over 20 years with no problems (so far) I know a person who carried his 1911 and when he went to :readjust" the gun in the holster he had a negligent discharge into his friends floor. Luckily the person who lived downstairs wasn't home at the time. Best we can figure out, the thumb safety got knocked off and he put his finger on the trigger when he "readjusted" the pistol. Safety starts between the ears not with a mechanical device.

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[gunman1911]

LDA can not be carried cock and locked as there is no hammer spur I was having a tough time deciding between the LDA and a Kimber and I did love the trigger on the LDA very smooth but did not have nite sights. If you find one with the options that you want go for it.

[texcaliber]

LDA can not be carried cock and locked as there is no hammer spur

PARA USA has a good customer service line which can correct you on why it is 1. cocked while the hammer is down and 2. how it is locked while the safety is engaged

there is no spur because it is harmful to cock an LDA system manually so its the simplest way para avoids the problem

tex

[Diplomat]

compared to everything else I shot and carried I feel 1911's are the safest.

Cocked and Locked is the only way to go.

[MrSteve]

Thanks everyone for the great info... Now my next problem is to figure out exactly what SA 1911 to go with.

Any thought, Para good go or?

[jaybet]

I have only one...A Sig revolution- nitron finish, night sights. I really like it in general and the trigger is very crisp. Paid about $800 for it. I've had trouble with the sights loosening up- had to re-pin the front sight twice with locktite and the rear sight actually has what looks like a mistake hole drilled off center from the correct one, so it occasionally loosens up. I'm a little disappointed with all that, but when it's all tweaked up it's accurate, good looking, and a pleasure to shoot.
I've fired a few Colts and liked them, and I'm told the Rock Island Armory 1911's (at just over $400) are respectable, but I've never actually held one.
Kimbers are right up there too, along with the Springfields. Next one I get probably won't be new. Look for a nice used piece.