Author Topic: TEOTWAWKI! (Read 2309 times)

McGyver · « **on:** November 25, 2010, 07:38:22 PM »

For those that don't know, it stands for The End Of The World As We Know It.

Are we destined to repeat the Korean "Police Action" again? It seems so, according to the news sources.
Are we not doing the same exact thing we did back in the 50's? Pretty close, to me!

Are you scared? (I am, but I'm too old to be drafted! LOL!)
Many of you may not be old enough to recall what happened, but I lost family in that travesty!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101125/wl_nm/us_korea_north1;_ylt=AjE.hdVoohLB3SoZcl1FhWRvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTJndnViazRxBGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMTAxMTI1L3VzX2tvcmVhX25vcnRoMQRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc291dGhrb3JlYWRl

billt · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2010, 07:55:46 PM »

It's still too early to try and make anything out of it. This guy's entire country is starving, and he does this kind of saber rattling because he wants something from the free world he can't get at the moment, because of U.N. sanctions that are currently in place on that stink hole. We'll most likely give in to him for whatever he wants if he promises to behave. Just like when he grabbed those 2 girls. He wanted Clinton to come and kiss a little a$$ to get them back. A big deal was made of it, and all was well. Hussein will do nothing but flap his pie hole. We got a carrier battle group steaming over there, but that is just more saber rattling. At least for now.

The other possibility is this guys about to lose power, and it's not known how well his dim witted son is being received by the military over there. Their whole regime just might fall apart. That could be good or bad, there is just no way of knowing at this point. It is an entirely closed society of crackpots over there. Bill T.

tombogan03884 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2010, 08:31:06 PM »

The recent events in Korea are not aimed at us, or even the S Koreans.
This is a propaganda move aimed at the minds of the N Korean people.
They are not told that NK started the shooting, they only hear about SK shells hitting on their side of the border.
Starving people are being convinced of the continuing need to sacrafice in the face of continuing aggression from the out side world.
For starters, they don't have enough fuel to run their tanks, all their oil is from either Venezuala, or donated by the South.
Second, China will not assist them this time, They do not want the refugee problem they are currently faced with to become even worse, nor do they want the fall out that prevailing winds will dump on them should such a conflict go nuke.
Third, if China is actively opposed the Russians can't help them either as it would require an opposed air lift of supplies.

McGyver · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2010, 08:42:44 PM »

And WHERE have we seen this before?

A Puss for a POTUS, and Iran just sits back and waits. Brings back memories of Carter, eh?
We may not jump into the Korean thing yet, but Obummer will CAVE when it comes to the Mid-East!

tombogan03884 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2010, 10:02:35 PM »

Doesn't really matter what Jimmy Obummer does, (actually I think he would freak out and nuke them )
Because the European Union and Russia would freak out and nuke them.
It's true that I spend a lot of time writing of the "new cold war" or the fact that the old one never ended, one thing that the US and Russia firmly agree on is the need to contain radical Islam. That is the whole reason behind both Chechen wars.
Where we run into conflict is in who we think are Terrorists. The Russians have always maintained that the Chechens were Al Qaida connected terrorists which the US, wrongly as history has shown, Claimed they were "Freedom Fighters", resisting Russian expansion. In retaliation they have given aid to Hamas, (as has Obummer ) and Iran, that is simply to create problems for us. Should Iran ever initiate large scale military action in the region, our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan would be at risk, but the only ones who could be seriously harmed would be Russia and Europe.
In fact, such a conflict would present several diplomatic advantages to the US if it occurred during the term of an American, rather than this "citizen of the world", and with the right Congress even he could be forced to take advantage of it.

Among the things I'm Thankful for this season is great topics for debate

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deepwater · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2010, 09:44:40 AM »

The North does this all the time. we don't usually hear about it unless there's some political reason for us to give a damn. what worries me is that I will be flying over there soon to go to work (the South) and must fly within range of the wacky North. I would guess too that maybe Kim and Junior are trying to build credibility for the countries new 'General' or junior so that we take him seriously when he does the stupid stuff daddy did. either way I don't like the idea of being in the middle of it and that is what will happen if we go back to war.

deepwater

tombogan03884 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2010, 09:52:40 AM »

There will be no war, As Deepwater mentioned, Gen. Junior has to show the NK military he has nads.

deepwater · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2010, 10:51:45 AM »

Quote from: tombogan03884 on November 26, 2010, 09:52:40 AM

There will be no war, As Deepwater mentioned, Gen. Junior has to show the NK military he has nads.

or even show the world he has nads. I think his military won't question him, but the rest of the world would. (question Jr. and you go to work camp for the rest of your life... that'll keep 'em in line).

deepwater

tombogan03884 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2010, 11:34:01 AM »

I'm only commenting because I think this is an especially interesting topic.
But I think it is aimed more at the NK people and military.
What Deepwater said about "question Jr. and you go to work camp for the rest of your life."
is only true as long as Daddy is still in complete control. If He dies or some how loses the support of either the military or Security service before Jr establishes his own firm grip on power then Jr. is screwed, just like the situation in the Soviet Union after Stalin's death, or when Khrushchev was removed. Jr. needs to keep the other factions scared of him by maintaining tight rein on the people with the guns.
If some General thought he could bring more guns to bear than the current regime, by eroding faith in Jr's ability to control the other factions Jr would get a very nice funeral .

deepwater · « **Reply #9 on:** November 26, 2010, 02:16:07 PM »

Quote from: tombogan03884 on November 26, 2010, 11:34:01 AM

I'm only commenting because I think this is an especially interesting topic.
But I think it is aimed more at the NK people and military.
What Deepwater said about "question Jr. and you go to work camp for the rest of your life."
is only true as long as Daddy is still in complete control. If He dies or some how loses the support of either the military or Security service before Jr establishes his own firm grip on power then Jr. is screwed, just like the situation in the Soviet Union after Stalin's death, or when Khrushchev was removed. Jr. needs to keep the other factions scared of him by maintaining tight rein on the people with the guns.
If some General thought he could bring more guns to bear than the current regime, by eroding faith in Jr's ability to control the other factions Jr would get a very nice funeral .

we can only hope.. my guess is that if they did take over, jr. may not even get a funeral, maybe just a ditch? mass grave to put him in with all his 'people'?

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