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Re: Springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 03:04:10 PM »
I've heard this as well, however I have not seen anything that really substantiates it. Even if it were true it doesn't change the fact that Springfield will not sell XD parts to the public or gunsmiths. If you own an XD and it goes down, you are forced to send it in for warranty work. This usually means weeks without your gun, which could have been fixed in hours, if not minutes if the parts were available.

A modern Glock pistol on the other hand has about 34 parts total. Every one of them is available for purchase either on line through literally hundreds of firearms supply outlets, or in most well stocked gun shops. This means in the rare occurrence should a Glock ever go down for whatever reason, it can be up and running again in very short order with a minimum of cost and inconvenience. For someone who is heavily into IDPA, or any other type of competitive shooting this is paramount. A gun that won't run is of no use to anyone.   Bill T.
The Gunsmith at my shop will work on the XD & XDM for minor issues.  However, if it is a major issue, one should send it back to Springfield.  Also, he can get Springfield parts for things like trigger work.  However, there are third party solutions out there that you can get better parts than Springfield like Powder River.  Our smith has done done several Powder River trigger kits and the results are fantastic and cheaper than Springfield.  Of course, Glock leads with aftermarket stuff.

As far as the XD factory, I underplayed my source.  Our Springfield rep provided the information.
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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 04:58:19 PM »
Can someone explain to me why every time a polymer gun is mentioned people always start talking about glocks.  Sure glocks were innovative when they first came out, but so was everything else at one point or another.       ???

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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 05:42:44 PM »
Between Pistol Gear, XDguys, Springer Precision and Powder River to name a few, someone who is serious about having spare parts does have options for oem parts, or aftermarket upgrades that address possible weak points (striker spring guide, striker retaining pin).  In many cases even if the pin breaks, the pistol will still function, but might as well upgrade the parts.

I would recommend anybody who owns an xd to get a set of PRP enhanced striker retaining pins.

I don't own an xd, but have been able to shoot hundreds of rounds through my brother's and other friends guns.  I have never personally witnessed one break or malfunction in any way other than a guy who's grip stopped the slide from locking back when empty.  Changed his grip a bit and was good to go.  My brothers pistol has been shot in very poor weather, as fast as we could keep mags loaded,  his gun has never had a hickup of any kind.

Just from my limited personal experience the XD is very reliable and robust,  with the possible exception beeing the striker retaining pin.  With this one part changed out, I would trust it as much as a Glock.......Just my 2cents.

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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 05:51:41 PM »
Can someone explain to me why every time a polymer gun is mentioned people always start talking about glocks.

Simply because it's the best selling polymer gun in the world, period. It is the standard all others in it's class are judged by, like it or not. It will most likely remain that way for decades to come.  Bill T.

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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2010, 06:35:43 PM »
Im not against glock.  It just cracks me up about always comparing it with other things.  Just like the old adage  _____ is the cadillac of _____.

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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2010, 07:15:38 PM »
In essence scrappy, Glock raised the bar. Which in the evolution of firearms is a good thing. No other pistol has been tortured, punished, tested, abused, kicked and run over, thrown out of airplanes, thrown in the ocean, buckets of sand, mud, dirt, and still worked long after others failed.

I'm not a Glock fan, but I own one, the grip on my G21 is too wide and fat for me, I often refer to it as a railroad tie with a grip, but it matters not, because it goes bang, with whatever ammo; every time.

It's too damn big to carry concealed here in the swamps of S. Florida, but it is what it is, and will be a goto pistol when/if needed.

For that standard, the other manufacturers had to play catch up. I also trust/love my M+P 40. FN9, it made the others wake up. Which is a good thing, it made the others say "Oh, sh**"...The XD platform, is reliable, and some folk swear by them. I don;t like the grip angle, and texture, and it's even uglier than a Glock,  ;) It's still a great pistol.

+1 on billt's post. Glock has withstood all the abuse and critiques. Fortunately, other gunmakers expanded on on it, and there are more great reliable pistols out there.

P.S. I Love my M+P. ;D

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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2010, 07:51:12 PM »
I've got to say  I always considered myself a huge Glock guy. I've been carrying them for work, personal protection and play for over 20 years now. I scoffed at the XD's when they came out having had the opportunity to carry a HS-2000 for a time while in the Adriatic region. It wasn't the worst pistol I've even carried but it was far from the best. I never even looked at another polymer pistol other than a few times that I was issued a HK that was fine but still no Glock in my eyes. Fast forward to a few months ago when I got a new in the box XDm 9mm in a trade. My initial plan was to flip it quickly but when I got it out of the box and put the large backstrap on it I decided it felt at least good enough to give it a shot at the range. Well the first trip to the range it/I outshot anything I've ever done with a 9mm Glock including Glocks with hundreds of dollars in aftermarket work to them. Now the trigger was no where as good as any of my Glocks and I still haven't gotten it there. I can't work on them like I can with Glocks, haven't learned them yet. Still it was impressive enough that I went from owning 5 Glocks in 9mm to now having only 1, my first 17. I was looking at picking up a XDm 3.8 before the end of the year but now will probably do the compact instead. I've tried the XD/XDm .45's and they're ok but not good enough to make me give up my Glock 21's & 30's but when it comes to 9mm poly pistols I'm a total XDm convert, they are nothing like the HS-2000 I carried many years ago.
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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2010, 10:19:28 PM »
It felt the same but I didn't take measurements.  I don't work until next Tuesday.  I'll do a side-by-side comparison if it is still on the shelf.

I did the side-by-side comparison and the XD sub-compact grip and the XDM compact grip are virtually identical.  I didn't take measurements so there may be a mm or two difference but that would be it.
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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2010, 10:40:16 PM »
thank you watchman i appreciate the info

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Re: springfield xdm the new compact
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2010, 11:43:56 AM »
Well i went to local fun store and saw an xdm compact they had.  It felt nice in the hands, but then i saw the price tag.
$650  :o        I guess i will wait a little while till the price comes down.

 

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