New York Reload

[bafsu92]

Watch gunbroker, I had a friend pick one up for $187 yesterday. I paid $219 for the last one I bought. It was close enough to pick up so no shipping or transfer charges which is usually higher than the sales tax for most of my deals. Under $300 I'd rather have it be a local deal.

[2HOW]

If you can get LCP's for $200 all day long, I'll take 3 of them and pay your FFL $50 to ship them to me! Dealer in my part of the world is $243.

Pecos

looked at one yesterday for 340.00 and a used P3AT was 275.00 thieves, no wonder the internet is putting local shops out of business.

[tombogan03884]

looked at one yesterday for 340.00 and a used P3AT was 275.00 thieves, no wonder the internet is putting local shops out of business.

To be fair, the local gun shop has overhead the online dealers don't, then factor in the auction aspect, a pool of potential customers immensely larger than the local guy can hope for and the much higher volume of sales, there is no possible way the local guy can compete and stay in business.  

[fightingquaker13]

To be fair, the local gun shop has overhead the online dealers don't, then factor in the auction aspect, a pool of potential customers immensely larger than the local guy can hope for and the much higher volume of sales, there is no possible way the local guy can compete and stay in business.  

Its sad and true. At the end of the day, it might lead to a very bad situation.Three types of gun shops.
Big box stores like Bass Pro, which puts us at the mercy of whatever corporations want and the customer be damned.
Pawn shops for transfers and used stuff.
The net, for those who know what they're doing, but with no way to fondle before buying, no service after the deal, and caveat emptor when you put your money down.
We lose, all the way around.
My general rule of thumb is to tack on $65 or so to any internet price to cover shipping and transfer fees. If you can get even close to that at a good local dealer, you owe it to yourself to use them.
FQ13

[bafsu92]

Its sad and true. At the end of the day, it might lead to a very bad situation.Three types of gun shops.
Big box stores like Bass Pro, which puts us at the mercy of whatever corporations want and the customer be damned.
Pawn shops for transfers and used stuff.
The net, for those who know what they're doing, but with no way to fondle before buying, no service after the deal, and caveat emptor when you put your money down.
We lose, all the way around.
My general rule of thumb is to tack on $65 or so to any internet price to cover shipping and transfer fees. If you can get even close to that at a good local dealer, you owe it to yourself to use them.
FQ13

I totally agree with you on almost everything, I've been on both sides of the deal, I gave up my FFL a few years ago because I couldn't make any money. One thing on transfers though, my average cost with shipping and transfer fee paid is closer to $50 than $65. If I pick up more than 1 item at a time considerably less (I pay $25 for the first and $10 for each additional the same day) I pay an average of $20 in shipping. If I buy a gun online and I pay over $300 I usually come out ahead due to no sales tax. It's a shame it's hurting local shops but my local shops suck. Service is terrible, they act like it's putting them out to get a gun out of the case for you to look at and normally are too busy joking with each other or some buddy who's hanging around their shop. I use their range and buy their range ammo so they make some money off me. About once a year I buy a gun from them anyway, usually something from the used case or something they don't rape me on like a youth combo or similar. I don't at all mind paying a bit of a premium for some good service and support, unfortunately the only shop I've found that I can consistently get this is around 2 hours away. I buy a few guns a year from them too.

I've bought or traded for over 30 guns this year and about 5 have come from shops. I have found I get what I want the best through trades though, I buy fewer and fewer guns and mostly trade now. Not just guns for guns either, I've had some creative trades the last few years. I don't know if it's the economy or what but the barter system is alive and well. Unfortunately that's another thing hurting local shops, they never (and I get why) give a decent amount for trade-ins.

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