School board meeting shooting - FL

[Timothy]

Even reading the Wiki page on TN, I can't find anything that I regard as "toxic".
Yeah, he chased skirts.  So what?  What did any of us do when were young and dumb and full of  -  spirit.

Exactly and I haven't even read the Wiki site. 

I find Wikipedia reprehensible in their inaccurate information.  That, couple with the way websites get listed on Google and other search engines.  Turns out the Wiki (or any other site) pays Google or Bing or Yahoo to get their site listed at the top of the list so that people are more likely to use the site.

It's not surprising so many HS and College kids are so misinformed.  They take the easy way out and get their information from the internet rather than doing the REAL work to research, obtain the facts and make a reasoned decision as to their findings.

[fightingquaker13]

Exactly and I haven't even read the Wiki site. 

I find Wikipedia reprehensible in their inaccurate information.  That, couple with the way websites get listed on Google and other search engines.  Turns out the Wiki (or any other site) pays Google or Bing or Yahoo to get their site listed at the top of the list so that people are more likely to use the site.

It's not surprising so many HS and College kids are so misinformed.  They take the easy way out and get their information from the internet rather than doing the REAL work to research, obtain the facts and make a reasoned decision as to their findings.

Amen and amen. It was bad enough trying to explain that an encyclopedia was NOT, a source to be cited, just a place to go for background. Now, I have to spend an hour explaining the peer reviewy stem and defending it, even though it is riddled with politics and bias. Still, unless you are using either original sources or something that has been fact checked by an expert in the field (no matter how biased they may be, at least they know the basics), it has to be regarded with an asterisk at best. In some ways the net has made research vastly easier. Flip side? There is a whole lot of BS out there that folks who don't know that you don't beileve it until you read and check the foot notes will accept as gospel. It really is kind of scary how folks can cover up the truth far more effectively by presenting too much information rather than by denying information.
FQ13 rant over

[MikeBjerum]

Bottom line is that until TAB comes forward with his charges and sources, all I know of Ted is his infidelity.  While that limits his chances of being a close personal friend, it does not discount his stance on the Second Amendment and self defense.

By the way, on the hunting regulation errors this past year - Check the background of professional hunters that travel several states and regions, and you will find a list of infractions.  Our patchwork of regulations, many of which are not printed in states hunting handbooks, are easy to run a foul of when you are in that profession.  Along with the lists of infractions, take a look at the way these professionals handle it by accepting responsibility, researching, paying up, and including it in their shows and/or writings.

[Timothy]

Case in point.  How many here might be Elvis Presley fans?

How many know he was a womanizing drug addict?  Does it matter that those drugs were prescribed by a physician?  How many tens of thousands of people visit Graceland every year unaware of the nature of Elvis?  A role model, he wasn't!

Ted is a rock legend who stayed away from drugs and alcohol and the death spiral they cause.  His personal life is none of my business.  My best friend was made guardian of his future wife when she was 17 because of an alcoholic, abusive mother.  Does that make him a bad guy?  Circumstances are important and unless and until someone can gain access to those facts, STFU!

[tombogan03884]

I've never found any major problems with Wikipedia.
It may be a little shallow but it makes a decent fast reference when I don't feel like spending hours searching out some piece of information, or I just want an overview of a subject.
Another thing that makes it a handy reference tool is that they usually have a "Further reading" list at the end.
As an example, here is Civil war information I found in 2 clicks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Confederate_States_Navy

It is doubtful that the list includes every single vessel the served the Southern cause .
But type in what I'm looking for, one click on the search engine, one click on the Wiki entry, and I've got a fairly informative starting point.

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[Timothy]

I've never found any major problems with Wikipedia.

But type in what I'm looking for, one click on the search engine, one click on the Wiki entry, and I've got a fairly informative starting point.

Operative word.......

[fightingquaker13]

Operative word.......

And again, an amen. Wiki is fine for a board like this. Its also a great place to start for a serious research project. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! Hit those cites at the end, then look at their list of cites. A general rule thumb is this: When all the authors of say, five articles on the Confederate Navy, cite the same three or four books/articles, those are the ones you want to read. Then you do a cite search to see who cites them, then a further cite search to see who's citing those guys. Its quick and dirty, but it does give you an idea of who is setting the debate on the Confederate Navy. It lets you get an idea of the literature pretty quickly. Again, this is for more serious reearch than is demanded here, but its what I try to drill into my students' heads. Sadly, most look at me as though I'd smacked them with a dead mullet. "But its in a book/article/on the web, it must be true".
FQ13 who notes that it is after noon on a Sunday so I can legally buy a beer.

[Timothy]

And your students would wonder why you hit them with a bad hair cut from the eighties instead of learning what a mullet really was!

It's Sunday, it's CT and I have to drive all the way to RI to buy beer or booze today...




About five minutes down the road!

 

[Solus]

It's Sunday and I'm wondering why folks are waiting to buy booze until they have run out......

[Timothy]

It's Sunday and I'm wondering why folks are waiting to buy booze until they have run out......

Who said I ran out?