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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 01:22:51 PM »
I think the board chairman handled it as well as could be.  He kept the guy talking, tried to calm him, tried to protect the others.  All well done (IMHO) considering the circumstances.

Agree that for a bunch of ill-prepared citizens (sheep ?), they did the best they could with the situation at hand....they got lucky the gunman was inept.

As others have pointed out already, one prepared citizen (or preferably more) could have ended the situation sooner.
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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 03:34:37 PM »
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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 03:56:45 PM »
Agree that for a bunch of ill-prepared citizens (sheep ?), they did the best they could with the situation at hand....they got lucky the gunman was inept.

As others have pointed out already, one prepared citizen (or preferably more) could have ended the situation sooner.

Having a CCW does not mean you are prepared.  its the software not the hardware.

I don't know what the CCW rate is in FL, but lets just say its 1 out of 100.  lets also say that 1 out of 100 CCW holders have actually had some training and shoot thier CCW guns often.  Thats only 1 out of every 10000 that is prepared.
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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2010, 06:01:59 PM »
I'm assuming this is another one of those perfectly safe "Gun Free Zones"?    Bill T.

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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2010, 08:20:51 PM »
I'm assuming this is another one of those perfectly safe "Gun Free Zones"?    Bill T.

My thoughts on gun free zones...If they don't have metal detectors and or pat downs, I'll have mine with me.
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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2010, 09:06:27 PM »
What I've noticed is all the damn coverage of it.  I can easily see this athe the "sound bite" to try for a new "gun control" push led by the people behind the media.

NBC's Today show had all the school board members there for an interview.

The house is set to change soon, but there's still time to sneak things in. I think we should keep an eye on this one and have our facts ready to disspell any exagerations created by sesationalism.

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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2010, 09:34:25 PM »
Most CCW states, forbid LAWFUL citizens from carrying on gov't/school property. YET the crazies and misfits, can somehow just enter.

Local FL. news mentioned the "impeccable timing of the security guard, Jones",....uh,...the BG should have been tazed or shot after the spray painting,. The sheeple mentality was prevalent when the situation started to degrade. Too bad. But it's rather a cultural aspect, that goes with APPEASEMENT.....Which is a damn failure.

Thankfully this was the lousiest shooter out there. MINUTES went by, before Jones the security guard showed up.

Remember, the LAW ABIDING CITIZEN CANNOT CARRY on this property. If one could have, it may have ended much earlier.

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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2010, 10:07:21 PM »
Having a CCW does not mean you are prepared.  its the software not the hardware.

I don't know what the CCW rate is in FL, but lets just say its 1 out of 100.  lets also say that 1 out of 100 CCW holders have actually had some training and shoot thier CCW guns often.  Thats only 1 out of every 10000 that is prepared.

I said nothing about CCW in my post. I thought it was clear....I said "ONE PREPARED CITIZEN".

Agree that for a bunch of ill-prepared citizens (sheep ?), they did the best they could with the situation at hand....they got lucky the gunman was inept.

As others have pointed out already, one prepared citizen (or preferably more) could have ended the situation sooner.


There are other ways to be 'prepared'.

Well, at least you're consistent...I'll give you that.


Like TW pointed out, it was a gov't building........ most (all?) states, CCW is not legal in a state-owned building.
My personal opinion is if I can pass the background to have a CCW, then I should have the same carry rights as LEO's.


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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 01:35:55 AM »
This guy had no intention of hurting any one. The Chairman was right, he just wanted the cops to kill him.

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Re: School board meeting shooting - FL
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 03:06:12 AM »
I said nothing about CCW in my post. I thought it was clear....I said "ONE PREPARED CITIZEN".


There are other ways to be 'prepared'.

Well, at least you're consistent...I'll give you that.


Like TW pointed out, it was a gov't building........ most (all?) states, CCW is not legal in a state-owned building.
My personal opinion is if I can pass the background to have a CCW, then I should have the same carry rights as LEO's.





I was just pointing out how rare a prepared person actually is.
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