School board meeting shooting - FL

[Solus]

Can't say what I would have done if I had been on that board, but if given a clear shot I have practiced to take it.  I will never know for sure until put in that position for sure, but the reason I learn, train and practice is to be ready to take the shot.

If you are going to wait till he shoots first you may just find out how hard it is to pull a trigger with a third nostril!

If my emotions were in check I would have done all I could have to put this coward down!

The only thing worse than committing suicide is forcing some one to do it for you.

Look at it from this perspective.


Say the Board President, who appeared to be the primary target, was a loved one, spouse, child or sibling. 

I don't think many would wait until that first shot was fired and the loved one lay bleeding before taking action to put the guy down.

I don't think i could pass on the chance to avoid the possible death of an innocent just because the innocent was not close to me.

[Teresa Heilevang]

If he was really intent on killing them .. He would have shot when he was standing by the door ( with the woman with her purse   ) and had a clear shot of all of them.. instead of waiting to allow them to hunker down behind the desk.
Sad thing is.. if he had of tried to talk to them in another setting.. without the gun etc.. The jerks would have waved  him off.. not give a damn about his wife getting fired or any other thing he had on his mind.
 Hell.. they didn't even know his wife worked at the school.
 But mark on a wall.. wave a gun around.. and they are all begging to help him help find a new job for his wife.. They are all bending over backwards to be friends and to help their fellow man..
BS~~ if he had never fired the gun... as soon as he was apprehended.. They would have turned their backs on him and never gave him or his wife a second glance in the help dept..

 Yes.. it is a bad thing.. and I don't condone what he did and how he did it.. and in a way he is a coward..
 but there were a whole string of cowards sitting behind that desk also.
Dammit.. people are pushed to the outer limits right now.. Corporate bullshit.. uncaring people in the system..  I can see sometimes where people ( who are a bit volatile anyway) can just be stretched to their last notch.

It made me sick when the news commentators kept saying .."There's a whole lot of heros in this room..."
Ohhh Pluuuueeeze~~ Heros my white ass! I didn't see any heros.. I saw several  "more than many" times that something could have been done to disarm.. knock him down.. cause disruption  to thwart him from continuing.. Men who sat there like stones  peeing in their pants.. begging..  .. but no heros..

No Heros in that room.. anywhere.. on either side of the table.
 

[2HOW]

This guy had no intention of hurting any one. The Chairman was right, he just wanted the cops to kill him.

His wife said he was an excellent shot, but he missed from that distance. According to news reports he was mad that his wife had been fired (downsizing) . I also believe he wanted to end it.

[jaybet]

If he was really intent on killing them .. He would have shot when he was standing by the door ( with the woman with her purse   ) and had a clear shot of all of them.. instead of waiting to allow them to hunker down behind the desk.
Sad thing is.. if he had of tried to talk to them in another setting.. without the gun etc.. The jerks would have waved  him off.. not give a damn about his wife getting fired or any other thing he had on his mind.
 Hell.. they didn't even know his wife worked at the school.
 But mark on a wall.. wave a gun around.. and they are all begging to help him help find a new job for his wife.. They are all bending over backwards to be friends and to help their fellow man..
BS~~ if he had never fired the gun... as soon as he was apprehended.. They would have turned their backs on him and never gave him or his wife a second glance in the help dept..

 Yes.. it is a bad thing.. and I don't condone what he did and how he did it.. and in a way he is a coward..
 but there were a whole string of cowards sitting behind that desk also.
Dammit.. people are pushed to the outer limits right now.. Corporate bullshit.. uncaring people in the system..  I can see sometimes where people ( who are a bit volatile anyway) can just be stretched to their last notch.

It made me sick when the news commentators kept saying .."There's a whole lot of heros in this room..."
Ohhh Pluuuueeeze~~ Heros my white ass! I didn't see any heros.. I saw several  "more than many" times that something could have been done to disarm.. knock him down.. cause disruption  to thwart him from continuing.. Men who sat there like stones  peeing in their pants.. begging..  .. but no heros..

No Heros in that room.. anywhere.. on either side of the table.
 

+1 wHAT SHE SAID !!  Every branch of government views the average guy as an inconvenience, and there's no accommodation for the people who pay their salaries.

[MikeBjerum]

The only hero I saw in that room was the woman with the purse!  Everyone else just did the minimum they could to keep from crawling under the table.  The security guard did his job, but I wonder why it took him so long to react - assuming that he was posted at the meeting room.

Yesterday I saw an interview with his wife where she called the shooter a "hero" for saving the lives of the others.  Her words were that he shot to miss and to cause them to dive for cover so they wouldn't be harmed when the police rushed the room shooting wildly.

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[tombogan03884]

News story I saw this morning said there was no record of his wife working for the School Dept ?

[Ichiban]

Here's a good interview with Mike Jones that explains how it went down.

Spoiler alert: he says "clips."


 
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7157901n&tag=mncol;lst;3

[brosometal]

This was a little more to the point.  Viva la Mike Jones!  He seems like an all around good guy that was in the right place at the right time.

BTW.  I have some time off so I will attempt to get some more smart donkey type comments...

[PegLeg45]

Great interviews.
Seems like an upstanding and humble guy.

[bodean87]

I said nothing about CCW in my post. I thought it was clear....I said "ONE PREPARED CITIZEN".


There are other ways to be 'prepared'.

Well, at least you're consistent...I'll give you that.


Like TW pointed out, it was a gov't building........ most (all?) states, CCW is not legal in a state-owned building.
My personal opinion is if I can pass the background to have a CCW, then I should have the same carry rights as LEO's.

One of the great things about Texas. You can get in the state capitol faster and not have to deal with the metal detectors if you have a ccw license. Still cant carry on school prperty. Unless its a college then you just cant enter any of the buildings.