The world's largest army? America's hunters

[wtr100]

Interesting thought since they tend to specifically seek out these "Fudds" when looking for men to put through sniper school. I guess being a skilled woodsman and shooter only count when it benefits them?

Of course you are talking about a government agency....

ack screwed the pooch  on that one (apologies to Alf the Wunder Beagle)  - meant ARFCOM aka AR15.com

head hung in shame

seems to me a bunch of hunters might be about the equivalent of the old colonial militia - two or three shots then run away
well these days 2 or 3 magazines ... 

[kilopaparomeo]

Agree that IF you could get enough like minded people together, the best option is true guerilla-style warfare.  Well placed ambushes, long distance, multiple shooters with interlacing fields of fire, maximum one magazine, displace and high tail it out of there.  Blend back into the people and be seen as nothing more than one more of the sheep.

Conventional warfare or force on force is the stuff of mall ninja fantasies and is a very quick way to a dirt nap.

Tinfoil hat off.

[mkm]

I don't know about the numbers, and no one can really say what they'd do for sure in most any situation until it's upon them.  However, I know there are a lot of guns out there in a lot of people's hands who know how to use them relatively well, at the least.  I don't think any sane person really wants to shoot someone or plans to, but, given a situation that calls for it and ultimately is between that person and their family's life and the life of someone who wishes them harm, I think most people (even ones who you think absolutely wouldn't) would pull that trigger without hesitation.

Now, there is a big difference between working as an organized group to fend off invaders at the country level and standing right next to your family to defend them.  But at some point with an enemy army on the doorstep, those two scenarios start to become one and the same.  The defenders almost always have the greater motivation to win because, if they lose, they lose everything.

I also think that one motivated person with a bolt action hunting rifle would be a lot more effective against invaders than two of your typical AR 15 toting tacticool "range soldiers."  That hunter has some experience in the woods, has used his rifle in all weather conditions (usually in less than ideal conditions) and knows what it's like to look through the scope at a living creature before taking its life.  I don't want the last part of that sentence to be taken wrongly.  There is a huge difference between taking the life of an animal and taking the life of a person (never have, hope I never do), and, for the record, I don't think hunting leads to killing people (more than likely the opposite, in my opinion).  However, there is a big difference in hunting and punching paper in beautiful weather.

Even if hunters don't organize at the national level but almost every house or neighborhood is reasonably defended,  invaders would still have a tough time.  Especially, if our actual military put up a good initial front.

[tombogan03884]

ack screwed the pooch  on that one (apologies to Alf the Wunder Beagle)  - meant ARFCOM aka AR15.com

head hung in shame

seems to me a bunch of hunters might be about the equivalent of the old colonial militia - two or three shots then run away
well these days 2 or 3 magazines ...  

I don't know about the numbers, and no one can really say what they'd do for sure in most any situation until it's upon them.  However, I know there are a lot of guns out there in a lot of people's hands who know how to use them relatively well, at the least.  I don't think any sane person really wants to shoot someone or plans to, but, given a situation that calls for it and ultimately is between that person and their family's life and the life of someone who wishes them harm, I think most people (even ones who you think absolutely wouldn't) would pull that trigger without hesitation.

Now, there is a big difference between working as an organized group to fend off invaders at the country level and standing right next to your family to defend them.  But at some point with an enemy army on the doorstep, those two scenarios start to become one and the same.  The defenders almost always have the greater motivation to win because, if they lose, they lose everything.

I also think that one motivated person with a bolt action hunting rifle would be a lot more effective against invaders than two of your typical AR 15 toting tacticool "range soldiers."  That hunter has some experience in the woods, has used his rifle in all weather conditions (usually in less than ideal conditions) and knows what it's like to look through the scope at a living creature before taking its life.  I don't want the last part of that sentence to be taken wrongly.  There is a huge difference between taking the life of an animal and taking the life of a person (never have, hope I never do), and, for the record, I don't think hunting leads to killing people (more than likely the opposite, in my opinion).  However, there is a big difference in hunting and punching paper in beautiful weather.

Even if hunters don't organize at the national level but almost every house or neighborhood is reasonably defended,  invaders would still have a tough time. Especially, if our actual military put up a good initial front.

One of the Revolutionary war battles down south (I forget which ) used that to great advantage.
The militia fired 1 or 2 volley's at the British, then turned and "ran" , reloading on the run they "fled" over a knoll where the Brits ran straight into a line of reloaded/reformed Militia and waiting Continentals who decimated them  

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I'd hate to be on the other end of even CAs gun owners, let alone us back in the 40s.

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[Solus]

Solus, Just to set the record straight, Yamamoto was shot down by Army Air Force P 38 Lightnings when he left his base in Rabaul.  I believe it was in '43.  You are correct about this quote however.

Works for me.

I heard the story that the statement was made at the WWII Vets conference by a Japanese officer and I just used the name given in the previous post. 

[wtr100]

One of the Revolutionary war battles down south (I forget which ) used that to great advantage.
The militia fired 1 or 2 volley's at the British, then turned and "ran" , reloading on the run they "fled" over a knoll where the Brits ran straight into a line of reloaded/reformed Militia and waiting Continentals who decimated them  

Battle of the Cow Pens in SC.  General Gauge (might have that wrong) - they didn't really go over the knoll.  As I understand it it was NC and VA Riflemen in front firing at the guys in the tall hats, followed by the Militia with the Continental Regulars at the back.  By the time the Riflemen and the Militia had fired their volleys - there weren't enough British officers and NCO's to control the formation.  General Gauge's brilliance in this battle was not expecting anyone to do more than he was capable of.