handgun reliabilty in diress

[mydogtaz]

howdy all,i have a question,rather looking for opinions from gun owners,between a glock,a kimber,an hk usp,or a sig,which 45 acp would you have or use to defend yourself or your family in a life or death situation.which one would be your first choice?

[TAB]

reality all the big name manufactors produce good guns right for the box.

it really comes down to which feels right and which as the features you like.

out of those you listed, I'd pick the sig, but I'm sure there will be others here that would pick the glock, the kimber or the hk.

I know that really does not help much.


if you can shoot as many as you can, see which one you like the best.

[twyacht]

As posted, all the brands you listed, make a good .45. So does S&W, EAA, Para, and STI.

I have a Glock21, it's fantastic pistol, you will be better suited to have large hands, and a fantastic carry rig, as it's a big pistol, (I actually call it a rail-road tie with a grip), but it goes bang every time, and is very accurate.

So are the others you listed. "Defend Your Family" covers parameters. At home? On the road?, In the nightstand? Or in a IWB holster.

Kimbers are top shelf, but why spend that much for a pistol, (it's ultimately your choice),...but,.....

Para's come in compact platforms, so do others....Full-size? Mid-size? Recoil management, all come into play.

I can defend my family with my M85 Ultra-Lite .38, as well as a Remington 870, or anything else in my safe,  so just getting a .45 will be a personal thing for you.

Have you considered another caliber? Just curious... You asked a brief question that has many possibilities. Take your time, go to gun shows, ranges, retail shops, and browse, fondle, rent, and fire several.

Do you have a lot of .45 exp? 9mm is cheaper ammo, for range time, etc,.... give us some specific things you are looking for in your quest, and I'm sure, those here can help narrow down some choices that will fit what you want.

Let us know, keep us in the loop. It's a big investment, and an important one for you and your family. Good folks here will help anyway we can, and congratulate you on whatever your satisfied with.

Good shopping.

tw

[fightingquaker13]

I like Glocks. That that said, I have heard very little bad about the others. As long as its not a mosquito ( ) there is little bad said about Sig. There is a reason most federal LEOs carry them and they are US made. H@K, again a great gun. Downside is that the general consensus is that their CS sucks, but I haven't experienced it. The only ding I've heard on Kimber is that they are a little too tuned to accuracy and so don't have the tolerance for crud that a cheaper 1911 might give you, due to tight tolerances. Again, I will defer to the 1911 guys here. As I said earlier I like Glock. A trained monkey can work it and field strip it. It would take a Ph.D. to break one. It will always go bang and has survived stupid torture tests. There is a reason a large number of PDs issue them. Some people don't like the grip angle or the size. Me, it fits perfectly and I like the trigger. It gves you slack takeup, then gets firm before firing. You know when it will go bang. To me, its a huge plus over a doube action revolver for example. But thats just me. Shoot all four and pick one. You won't go wrong.
FQ13

[mydogtaz]

sorry,i realize my question was at best a little vague.yes i have lots of 45 expereince,i am most comfortable shooting a 45 .as far as where the protection is needed,it could be home ,on the road,getting into the car in the store parking lot,walking ionto a 7-eleven,etc.,etc....i now and have been carrying a S&W cs45.great little gun for concealment,just wish it had more than 6 shots.crime and thugs are carrying bigger and better weapons,so a think sometimes i would like a little more in the mag than six.i agree on the kimber issue,a lot of money is needed,but i have shot a sig,and have been seeing positive things on an hk usp 45.your right i need to rent a few different selections (glock,HK,etc.) and see what i like.i do have big hands,so heft is not necessarily an issue,but concealment might be......

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[tombogan03884]

I got a deal on a brand new Rock Island Armory 1911 or I would not have bothered with a semi auto at all, let alone a .45.
That being said, If your only criteria to pick one from the list is reliability,
Go with the Glock, they are ugly, they have no personality, and rather than having "workmanship", they are simply squirted into a mold.
 But they will go bang every effen time.

[Ichiban]

If you are looking for something with a higher capacity might I suggest you look at the FNP-45?  FNs are a quality, reliable, accurate, and often overlooked handgun.  If you have big hands that might be a good match as they are a handful for regular sized hands.  I have the FNP-9 and FNX-40 and can honestly say that they are great guns at a very attractive price.  Not the easiest to CCW but with a good holster it's not too big of a problem.
 

[twyacht]

Damn, I forgot to mention the FN ....I have the FN9 and love the simplistic, keep it simple stupid design that grips well, shoots great, and is utterly reliable. The FN-45 just has a larger caliber, same design, 1/3-1/2 the cost of a Kimber, much less than the Sig and HK, and is right up there with the EAA Witness .45.

RIA, makes a no muss, no fuss pistol. Keeping to tradition that carries the original 1911 platform into this century.

Larger pistols, used to be hard to IWB, but Galco, DeSantis, Don Hume, and many others have found a way to make it a comfortable carry.

If concealment plays a significant role, grope and fondle some of the Para's, or other compacts. Hell, the Glock compacts always can be carried IWB, even the G30 is 10 rds. of .45.

Quite the option. for around $500, (give or take),..

[m25operator]

I have owned a Glock 21 for 20 yrs, it is a great pistol at a reasonable price, utterly reliable and accurate, save up a little more and put crimson trace laser and you got it, if you go for the older models, and a flashlight is not a big deal, you can get 1 for 400 bucks.

Not bashing the FN, it is reliable and accurate, but the accessories for the Glock are all over the place. The Kimbers and HK's are very expensive, and not worth the trade off, IMHO.

[GASPASSERDELUXE]

I have owned a Glock 21 for 20 yrs, it is a great pistol at a reasonable price, utterly reliable and accurate, save up a little more and put crimson trace laser and you got it, if you go for the older models, and a flashlight is not a big deal, you can get 1 for 400 bucks.

Not bashing the FN, it is reliable and accurate, but the accessories for the Glock are all over the place. The Kimbers and HK's are very expensive, and not worth the trade off, IMHO.

i BOUGHT A GLOCK 21 SHORTLY AFTER THEY CAME OUT.  HAD IT FOR 2 YEARS. DURING THIS TIME IT SPENT 6 MONTHS EITHER TRAVELING TO, FROM OR BEING AT GLOCK FOR REPAIRS. THE EXTRACTOR HOOK KEPT BREAKING, THE LOWER CORNER WOULD BREAK OFF.  AFTER THE 4TH  TIME I SOLD IT.