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Say no to Mexican truckers
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:52:53 PM »
Obama Plan Aims to Ease Mexican Trucking Ban

By SEWELL CHAN

The New York Times

January 6, 2011

 

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration offered a proposal on Thursday to allow long-haul Mexican trucks to move cargo in the United States .

 

The proposal, which the Mexican government greeted as a positive step, was the latest sign of a new willingness by the Obama administration to support free-trade measures backed by Republicans and by businesses despite objections from labor unions and other liberal constituencies.

 

The United States has effectively barred Mexican trucks from operating on American roads since March 2009. Mexico said the ban violated the North American Free Trade Agreement, which took effect in 1994, and retaliated by imposing $2.4 billion in punitive tariffs on a wide range of American agricultural and other products imported to Mexico .

 

On Thursday, the United States transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, offered a “concept document” that could help resolve the dispute.

 

Under the plan, Mexican long-haul trucking operators could seek permits to operate in the United States so long as they agree to safety, insurance and other monitoring requirements. The proposal would not cover the movement of hazardous materials.

 

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce applauded the proposal, the latest indication of a thawing in the frosty relationship between the administration and the giant business lobby, which spent tens of millions of dollars to defeat Democrats in November.

 

“It’s past time that we kept our word and complied with the promise we made to allow carefully inspected trucks to move across the border,” Thomas J. Donohue, the president of the chamber, said in a statement. “We will closely study the U.S. proposal and hope we can help implement a modern cross-border transportation system that provides certainty for trucking companies and shippers throughout North America .”

 

Mexican officials responded positively but cautiously to Mr. LaHood’s proposal, saying they would offer a fuller response on Monday. If a final agreement is reached — a process that could be months away — the tariffs would probably be lifted in a matter of weeks, officials said.

 

“ Mexico will carefully and constructively evaluate the U.S. proposal to solve the longstanding trucking dispute,” the Mexican ambassador to Washington, Arturo Sarukhán, wrote in a Twitter post.

 

However, the proposal by the Transportation Department was denounced by the Teamsters union, which represents long-haul truckers and fears that expanded Mexican trucking within the United States will threaten jobs.

 

“I am deeply disappointed by this proposal,” the union’s president, James P. Hoffa, said in a statement. “Why would the D.O.T. propose to threaten U.S. truck drivers’ and warehouse workers’ jobs when unemployment is so high? And why would we do it when drug cartel violence along the border is just getting worse?” Mr. Hoffa also raised safety concerns.

 

Democratic lawmakers reacted cautiously to the proposal.

 

Senator Patty Murray of Washington , who is active on agricultural issues, said in a statement: “I am glad that the administration is moving forward with a plan to finally end the devastating Mexican tariffs on Washington State agricultural products.” But she did not explicitly address the trucking dispute or the objections by unions.

 

The trucking ban took effect after Mr. Obama signed legislation containing a provision that ended a pilot program, begun in September 2007, to allow Mexican trucks north of the border. For months, the administration had said it was working to resolve the dispute, but offered little sign of progress.

 

Transportation Department officials emphasized that the proposal was only a “starting point for negotiations” and that it would solicit public comment on the final rules.

 

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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 05:12:46 AM »
Why in the bleep would we want, when we have truckers in this country that are hurting for work, to allow Mexican truckers to haul goods on our roads?

Let them haul their stuff in their own country, and we'll do the same. This is just another example of how out of touch the Obamessiah is.

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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 08:15:05 AM »
Actually there is a shortage of truckers.  Due to low paying loads.  This was mainly caused by Mexicans taking loads for 1.75 a mile (or less) when it should be around 2.50 - 3.00.  Customers get used to paying low and refuse to 'up the ante'. 
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 12:38:31 PM »
Haz,

You are deep in the industry, so what would you think of a situation of cross docking at all ports of entry?  Mexican and Canadian trucks would stay in their countries and we would stay in ours.  The airline industry has a program with TSA called "Known Shipper,"  and that could be done with companies that operate in both countries.

Under the known shipper program the vehicles and drivers would need to meet the standards of both countries, and the companies would be held to a level of security.  With cross docking all non-certified freight and haulers would enter the depot, everything would be off loaded, and reloaded in new trucks.  This would give at least the appearance of security while protecting our roadways.
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 12:58:28 PM »
Maybe a sytem of "inland ports". These would ideally be at rail heads, as shiping by truck is ridiculousy ineffecient. Much like M58s idea, you could move goods a fair degree inland to avoid bottle necks, bu from there, it wold go to rail or American trucks.
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 01:32:11 PM »
FQ,

The "bottleneck" is going to occur where ever you do it, so why not just set it all up at the port of entry?  Why let them come even ten feet into our country?
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2011, 01:44:49 PM »
FQ,

The "bottleneck" is going to occur where ever you do it, so why not just set it all up at the port of entry?  Why let them come even ten feet into our country?
I was just thinking of my Texas days. They had a "port" at Laredo on the border. It was a nightmare. God knows how manty trucks, snarls, delays etc. I agree from a security stand point though. I also though would really like to see a lot of long haul trucking replaced by rail and short haul trucking. It would save fuel, reduce traffic, and cut down on highway repair. I don't know enough to comment in detail, but it seems like by using containers, from ships, to trains, to trucks, we could be a lot more fuel effecient.
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 02:44:16 PM »
I was just thinking of my Texas days. They had a "port" at Laredo on the border. It was a nightmare. God knows how manty trucks, snarls, delays etc. I agree from a security stand point though. I also though would really like to see a lot of long haul trucking replaced by rail and short haul trucking. It would save fuel, reduce traffic, and cut down on highway repair. I don't know enough to comment in detail, but it seems like by using containers, from ships, to trains, to trucks, we could be a lot more fuel effecient.
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The debate is not about the mode of transportation.  ALL incoming freight, vehicles and operators must be subject to our rules and regulations.  At some point we need to consider which is more important - Do we value a little time lost in snarls at an international border more than we do our security and safety?  Until we can control our borders we will not be able to control anything within the borders - even with the constant erosion of Rights!
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2011, 04:39:07 PM »
The debate is not about the mode of transportation.  ALL incoming freight, vehicles and operators must be subject to our rules and regulations.  At some point we need to consider which is more important - Do we value a little time lost in snarls at an international border more than we do our security and safety?  Until we can control our borders we will not be able to control anything within the borders - even with the constant erosion of Rights!
Agreed its a side issue, though if we can get a lot of this stuff on rail we can eliminate the need for the Mexican trucks. They are bad from a security, wage and safety standpoint. Do notice though folks, that it is a GOP, not a Dem constituency that is pushing this. The Chamber of  Commerce is hardly a basion of liberalism. It just shows that the border issue is driven by one thing, greed. Both parties are the problem here.
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Re: Say no to Mexican truckers
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 08:34:59 AM »
M58, et al,

Cross docking adds significant costs to transportation but is certainly one solution.  Another is 'trailer swap'.  Have companies enter agreements to haul the trailers in their own country.  Example : USA company X take a load to Brownsville and drops the trailer, then Mex company Z hooks up and takes it the rest of the way into Mex.  Meantime USA company X picks up a trailer from Mex company Z and brings it into the US.
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