US senator Gabrielle Giffords shot in arizona shooting - six others killed.

[WatchManUSA]

I just read on CNN (via Drudge) the shooter's gun was a Glock 19 with a 30 round (G18) magazine.

[philw]

 

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Giffords Shooting – Another American Gun Tragedy   
» by Paul Helmke on January 8th, 2011 Permalink
Being the target of violence has always been a risk for those in public office in this country. The organization I head, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, is named after a man, Jim Brady, who was shot and seriously injured nearly 30 years ago while serving as President Reagan’s Press Secretary. During my first month as mayor of Fort Wayne, IN, I started receiving death threats which my Police Department considered to be very credible. Too many public officials have been killed and injured in this country in my lifetime – nearly all of them by guns.

I first met Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shortly after her election in 2006. All who met her felt that she had the potential to go far in politics and government. Our hearts and prayers go out to her for a successful recovery, and to the families of the Federal Judge, the young child, the District Director for the Congresswoman and the others killed and injured at the Tuscon grocery store today.

While we are all still learning details about this shooting, and particularly the 22-year old responsible for this horrendous act, we should find it unacceptable that when Americans and our elected leaders are assembling in public places, their lives are at risk from gun violence.

We also are deeply concerned about the heated political rhetoric that escalates debates and controversies, and sometimes makes it seem as if violence is an acceptable response to honest disagreements. Shortly after President Obama took office, the head of the NRA crowed that “the guys with the guns make the rules;” participants in Congressional forums and Presidential events started carrying guns in public; and then, just last year a candidate for U.S. Senate said the citizens unhappy with elections results should consider exercising their “Second Amendment remedies” and Sarah Palin used gun “target” metaphors encouraging voters to defeat Rep. Giffords and others.

We, as Americans, can and should do more to restore civility to our political discourse. And we can and should do more to address the easy access to high-powered guns that make it too easy for dangerous and irresponsible people to disrupt and destroy the lives of innocent Americans, and political leaders who are simply trying to serve their communities and our country.

(Note to readers: This entry, along with past entries, has been co-posted on The Huffington Post)

Posted in Brady Background Checks, Closing The Gun Show Loophole, General, Gun, Gun Crime, Gun deaths, Second Amendment, nra

[fightingquaker13]

I just read on CNN (via Drudge) the shooter's gun was a Glock 19 with a 30 round (G18) magazine.

At least he had good taste in weapons. Why is it that these idiots can't just kill themselves rather than taking out innocents with them? All we can do is pray for the victims and hope that folks will have some comon sense here. God knows thats a slim chance, the Brady Bunch and Holder are probably already in a huddle. Its already Palin, probaly Lou Dobbs and Sherrif Joe as well, and of course EBGs. That jackass sherrif saying nut jobs are easily incited? No kidding. But as much as I dislike Sarah, she has never even come close to calling for violence. Give me a break. Maybe the general political rhetoric could and should be cooled down, I agree with that, but to blame any side for this is beyond shameful.
FQ13

[WatchManUSA]

For sake of 24 by 7 news, looses like Jared Loughner, get huge amounts of notoriety.  Perhaps this has more to do with violent acts like this than gun, magazine capacity and ammo used in a crime like murder.

[MikeBjerum]

Mid afternoon the AP reports were having a hay day with Palin and her ad campaigns about targeting, and how these ads with a crosshairs prompted actions like this.  Later in the afternoon the liberal talking heads were making fun of Palin for expressing concern for those affected by this shooting.

The video of the Sheriff is just the tip of what we are going to hear from the anti's on this.  I'm sure that as soon as the initial shock, 0.35 seconds, wore off they were gathering in the war rooms rolling out the plans to capitalize on this tragedy.

Get ready boys and girls, because the shooter had nothing to do with it.  This was all about that ugly and evil gun that not only can't be detected by x-ray or metal detectors, but that evil gun that ran out and killed and wounded all these people in the hands of the poor victim that happened to be holding it.

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[jp1]

I’m sure the anti-gun groups will have plenty to say about this and I don’t know if the Dictator in chief will try to have his regulatory hounds try to regulate anything like magazines or not. But I don’t think that is what they will go for with this one; I think they will be looking to use the FCC to regulate the 1st amendment, and get rid of as much conservative speech as they can. Don’t think they will be successful but I think they will try.

The Sharif set the tone with his comments and my guess he comments has something to do with the note found on that crazy nut, and now the left is out in full attack mode trying to sway public opinion. And surprise most are not going after guns, here a just a few examples:

CNN Reporter: Palin Part of Rhetoric That ‘Allowed This Kind of Thing to Happen’ Politics

Washington Post’s Eugene Robinson: Violent Rhetoric Comes Exclusively from the Right

NY Times’ Krugman Blames Shooting on GOP, ‘Hate-Mongers’ Beck & Limbaugh

Keith Olbermann Compares Glenn to Shooter, Calls on Beck to Apologize for His Rhetoric

Never mind that right after the shooting the Feds had his MySpace page pulled off the net in amazing speed, luckily there are some fast fingers after the name was released that got a look at it.

“He lists reading under interests, as well as "conscience dreams," and among his favorite books are "Mein Kampf," the "Communist Manifesto," "Animal Farm" and "Brave New World.”

Sound like a person that would listen to a conservative show?

One other thing I find very ironic is that Gabrielle Gifford was the one to read the 1st amendment when Congress read the Constitution, and now there is a full fledge attack on it.

[fullautovalmet76]

A young man who is said to be mentally unstable carries out a heinous act. Does anyone see a pattern here from others in the past? The underwear bomber? The shoe bomber?

They think he had an accomplice. I'm going to watch this one carefully but don't be surprised if the FBI "knew about" this guy before he committed the crime.

How the narrative will be constructed afterward:
"Hate" speech laws will be expanded to include political statements. Get ready for this: a limitation on the capacity of magazines. A "re-examination" of carry laws in AZ and other places that are relatively "loose".

I already have a few 30 round mags for my Glock. I think I'm going to buy a few more.

I'm not waiting around for this one, I'm contacting my state and federal elected representatives to let them know curtailing rights over this tragedy is not going to be acceptable. I suggest all of us get proactive on this and get out in front of the spin machine that is going to be going on Monday.....

Extra item: According to the NRA and GOA she has a grade of 'D' from both. I guess her support for our rights is tepid at best. If she comes out of this OK (that is my hope), she might become the next Jim Brady....And we know what that brought us.....

[tombogan03884]

When you answer all opposition with insults and accusations of racism, with the intent to divide voters into easily bribed special interests, sometimes you have to reap what you have sown.

[MikeBjerum]

A young man who is said to be mentally unstable carries out a heinous act. Does anyone see a pattern here from others in the past? The underwear bomber? The shoe bomber?

They think he had an accomplice. I'm going to watch this one carefully but don't be surprised if the FBI "knew about" this guy before he committed the crime.

How the narrative will be constructed afterward:
"Hate" speech laws will be expanded to include political statements. Get ready for this: a limitation on the capacity of magazines. A "re-examination" of carry laws in AZ and other places that are relatively "loose".

I already have a few 30 round mags for my Glock. I think I'm going to buy a few more.

I'm not waiting around for this one, I'm contacting my state and federal elected representatives to let them know curtailing rights over this tragedy is not going to be acceptable. I suggest all of us get proactive on this and get out in front of the spin machine that is going to be going on Monday.....

Extra item: According to the NRA and GOA she has a grade of 'D' from both. I guess her support for our rights is tepid at best. If she comes out of this OK (that is my hope), she might become the next Jim Brady....And we know what that brought us.....

As much as I hate what happened and do not want her to suffer for this, you know that the Brady campaign already has the contracts ready for her to sign.

I can understand their train of thought concerning this, but it is flawed logic.  By taking away all guns you are not going to stop someone like this.  He could just as easily charged in with a knife, machete, baseball bat, pipe bomb, automobile, or any number of IED's that most school boys experimented with in their pre-teen and teen years.

[tombogan03884]

Only the right engages in "hate rhetoric"

Like Hitler said, "If you're going to lie, you might as well lie big"