I need to start thinking about my next vehicle, any thoughts

[Timothy]

toyotas build quality as sliped alot in the last 5 years.  hell we even limoned lawed one back to them.  in less then 7k miles it went thru 2 cpu, a tranny, 5 gps/climit control boards. and a new rear hatch lift system.  Funny, they were way over the time in shop and number of vists, and still did not want to pay up.  One call from my lawyer, and we walked out with a check.  Now yeah, every once in awhile something slips thru, but just about every thing on that suv broke. oh yeah toytoa still only gives you 10k mile tires unless you upgrade  

Toyota doesn't warranty their tires.  They're warranted by the tire manufacturer.  Other than that, your statement is ridiculous.  Toyota uses good quality, brand name tires made by the major manufacturers that are at least 30-40K mile tires.  My daughters RAV4 had Goodyear on it from the factory and they weren't cheap.

Now, the DEALER may have removed THOSE tires and replaced them with cheap junk which is more likely.  Car dealers are paroled felons wearing cheap suits for the most part....

[TAB]

its only on thier cheapest cars, still its a joke.

[MikeBjerum]

A good dealer will make a bad car better and a good car great.

a bad dealer will make a great car bad.


Sadly all the local non luxury car dealers are pita.   Its what happens when ona bad business guy/family buys up all the dealer ships in the area.

I am not a fan of over consolidation of business, but sometimes the best thing that can happen is for a good businessman to buy up the poor to average.

[Bill Stryker]

Go with the GMC Yukon.

We just traded in our 2003 Yukon XL for a 2010 Yukon XL and we are getting 19.5 mpg per the driver information center on the vehicle. It is a 4x4 wouldn't have any other here in Michigan in the winter.

BTW I need to trade my car in the next four months. I am thinking of another GMC. We have had very good luck with them for 25 years. I have had other brands along the way, including Ford -- Fix Or Repair Daily -- and some Chryslers and German brands. GMC is the best.

[Timothy]

I am not a fan of over consolidation of business, but sometimes the best thing that can happen is for a good businessman to buy up the poor to average.

Here in SE Connecticut, we have basically three families of Auto Dealers and all their names end with a vowel.  The only one that doesn't, is an Irishman.  They are ALL crooked......If you want a car in New London county, that's who you have to deal with.

In MA, there are several families as well and guess what?  They're all crooked too.  One guy, Herb Chambers, sells nearly every car made in the world at one dealer or another......a thief to the 10th exponent...

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[Timothy]

Everyone has an opinion, I know I do but my experience with Ford over GM and Chrysler is not just personal.  I've owned a 64 Mustang, 71 Pinto, 74 Maverick, an 82 and 96 Escort, an 02 and 03 Focus and my 03 Ranger truck with NO problems other than normal wear and tear, gas and oil, etc...  I did have to replace the fuel pump in 82 Escort, it cost me 15 bucks at the bone yard and took ten minutes to replace.

I've owned a 79 Camaro, 84 Regal and an 86 Chrysler, all bought new and they were junk....I know that the eighties were tough on GM and Chrysler but nothing in the last twenty years leads me to think anything has changed.  Ford didn't make a very good car then either.

I read the reviews, the reliability ratings and independent surveys and they all lead to the imports or Ford Motor Company...with all the information available at your fingertips, you should be able to make a reasoned decision.

[twyacht]

Get a pre-83 K5 Blazer, that will withstand an EMP without frying any computer controlled systems...cause it has none.

Oh, sorry,...

The Rubicons hold up well, but ride like crap on the highway. The Yukon will leave you underwater faster than a house purchase in Las Vegas.

The Audi will push your price point, and maint./repairs are steep.
Tundra?
Sequoia?
Suburu too small for you?
Durango?
A used Hummer?

Perhaps a slightly used Tahoe. IMHO, a new car/truck/SUV/ is a waste, when one with 11,000 miles on it carries a factory warranty, and is not a hole in the road for price.

Test drive everything. One's available to meet your criteria.

I won't waste money on a new vehicle anymore, but one with a few thousand mile o

[fightingquaker13]

I'm a Ford truck guy, but I'll bring one other thought to the table because you are interested in mileage, size, and price. I spent a couple of weeks in Montana. I rented a Subaru Outback. I'm not a huge wagon fan, but this thing was great. It had plenty of room for two people to camp out of for two weeks. It got good mileage. It was zippy in traffic and on the highway (remember Mt. has 75 mph speed limits on hilly roads). Its AWD and every third car in the Bozeman area seems to be a Subaru so people must like them. I mean literally, I pulled into a station and couldn't figure out how to open the gas tank (the rental company hadn't included the manual). Anyway, I figure I'll just wait for the next Subaru to pull in. I wasn't there five minutes before another one did. This was weird as they are very rare here in Fl., but obviously are well suited to snowy, hilly country. I'm not sure I'd buy one, but I'd damn sure test drive one because I was very pleantly surprised by it.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Subaru's do have a great reputation, every one I have known that had one abused the hell out them for 10 years or so.
I believe Ford owns the company so that should make Tim happy too  

[m25operator]

Of the choices I would go GM, but I have a friend who moved to Colorado about a yr ago, and he had visiting there for some time and like other snowy parts of the country, he noticed that every 3rd car was a Subaru, so he bought a v6 Outback and loves it, AWD and it gets ( according to him, ) 26mpg on the hwy and he has had it up to 140 mph. By the way he is 6'4" tall. I worked as a technician in the 70's and early 80's, the company was real big on quality and service. By the company, I mean Subaru, they would warranty things, to my dismay, when way out of warranty.