24 Hours Later, The Anti Gun Legislation Proposal

[twyacht]

Never considered Peter King, aka brown-nosing RINO opportunistic egomaniac, (from NY), a Conservative.

I'm sure the BG's, and wacko's will abide by this leg. IF it passes. Which I don't see happening.

[tt11758]

The aptly named McCarthy has had this bill written for years. She was just waiting for the right tragedy to bring it out. Opportunistic much?
As for Brady? Making it a crime to use language that might SEEM to be threatening to federal officials? Couldn't we just dust off the Sedition Act of 1918? Alternatively, we could go Old School and bring back the Alien and Sedition Acts? AAARGH! What is it with Irish folks named Brady and McCarthy having serious issues with the Bill of Rights? Anyone?  
FQ13 who hopes Boehner proves to be semi-useful and round files both of these.

The reason legislation like this is introduced in the aftermath of a tragedy such as this is simple.  Even the anti's know that, unless there is highly-charged emotion connected to their agenda, they have nothing on which to push that agenda.  In other words, when emotion is removed they have no points upon which to base an argument.  But since they are sure they can bullshit the masses when they're emotionally charged, they go after it at times like these.

In short, they're vultures.

[billt]

The reason legislation like this is introduced in the aftermath of a tragedy such as this is simple.  Even the anti's know that, unless there is highly-charged emotion connected to their agenda, they have nothing on which to push that agenda.  In other words, when emotion is removed they have no points upon which to base an argument.  But since they are sure they can bullshit the masses when they're emotionally charged, they go after it at times like these.

In short, they're vultures.

Very well said!  Bill T.

[MikeO]

The 10 round mag limit is back on the table.

In 1881 in Tombstone AZ nine men armed with at least 10 guns fired at each other near the O.K. Corral. They fired about 30 shots at each other at distances of less than 30 feet. When the smoke cleared there were 3 dead and 3 wounded.  In 2011 in Tucson AZ one man with one gun fired more rounds than all nine of those men put together, killing twice as many and wounding almost five times as many all by himself. He did that before the good guys carrying concealed could stop him.

This is progress?

On the other hand, Tombstone is much safer now that the people who live there are allowed to carry concealed weapons than it ever was when they were not allowed to carry any guns at all in town. Their are fewer gunfights in town now that the good folks there are carrying sixteen shooters than there was when nobody could carry six shooters.

In 1990 NYPD was armed mostly with six shot revolvers. Ten years later in 2000 they were armed mostly with sixteen shot semiauto pistols. Though officers were firing more than twice as many rounds with their semiautos during gunfights in 2000, they were hitting their targets half as often (9% v 19%) as they did with their revolvers in 1990 . More progress?

Then again, crime in NYC is at record lows now that sixteen shooters are the pistola du jour for both cops and robbers.

How safe do we want to be, and at what cost?

A 10 round mag limit bothers me more on priciple than it will in reality.

[WIshooter]

I thought Mas Ayoob said it well in his blog

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2011/01/11/the-tucson-atrocity-more-than-one-crackpot/


THE TUCSON ATROCITY: MORE THAN ONE CRACKPOT
As we wait to learn more about the mass murderer in Tucson – and as we extend thoughts and prayers to his victims and their families, and congratulations to the four courageous citizens, one of them armed, who stopped the massacre – we saw people with their own political agendas dancing in the blood of the victims before it had time to dry at the murder scene.

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[fightingquaker13]

Have you seen the one about prohibiting firearms from being within 1,000' of a public official?  All you GOP-fanboys note this comes from one of your teammates...

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/peter_king_gop_rep_from_ny_wan.php

Actually, if we tweak this a little I think its a great idea. Since there are a lot more guns than public officials, it would be cheaper and easier (and safer) to reverse it. Make it a felony for a public official to come within 1000 ft of a gun. I see no problem with this.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Actually, if we tweak this little I thik its a great idea. Since there are a lot more guns than public officials, it would be cheaper and easier (and safer) to reverse it. Make it a felony for a public official to come within 1000 ft of a gun. I see no problem with this.
FQ13

Only if they ring DC with gun stores to keep the bastards from escaping. 

I really can not believe that Mike O has not been flamed to a crisp yet. "Shall not be infringed" leaves no room for compromise.

[MikeO]

I can take the heat.

"Shall not be infringed" still leaves room for reasonable restrictions. Somewhere between where DC and Chicago's present unreasonable restrictions are and Gerald Lee Loughner buying Ma Deuce at Wal-Mart no questions asked...

[bodean87]

I can take the heat.

"Shall not be infringed" still leaves room for reasonable restrictions. Somewhere between where DC and Chicago's present unreasonable restrictions are and Gerald Lee Loughner buying Ma Deuce at Wal-Mart no questions asked...

That settles it. I'm going to wal-mart. Anyone need anything while I'm there?

[JC5123]

I can take the heat.

"Shall not be infringed" still leaves room for reasonable restrictions. Somewhere between where DC and Chicago's present unreasonable restrictions are and Gerald Lee Loughner buying Ma Deuce at Wal-Mart no questions asked...

How do you come to that conclusion? Any restriction, whether YOU consider it reasonable or not, IS by it's very definition an infringement.