24 Hours Later, The Anti Gun Legislation Proposal

[tombogan03884]

Yep. The slope is slippery...

If a 10 round limit is OK, why not 5?

If you can ban full auto guns made after a certain date, why not semi auto guns?

Can you require all gun owners to have liability insurance?

Is a license/registration to own OK? How much $ is too much for it?

Heller left a lot to be decided about which policy choices are on/off the table. Until the SCOTUS takes them off the table, they will keep coming up again and again here and there.
They can pass a law, they can attempt to enforce a law, they can not make every one obey the law.

They already have such laws in place for vehicles. Read your local Court and Police logs and see how many people are busted for Driving with out license, registration, or insurance.

[MikeBjerum]

Yep. The slope is slippery...

If a 10 round limit is OK, why not 5?

If you can ban full auto guns made after a certain date, why not semi auto guns?

Can you require all gun owners to have liability insurance?

Is a license/registration to own OK? How much $ is too much for it?

Heller left a lot to be decided about which policy choices are on/off the table. Until the SCOTUS takes them off the table, they will keep coming up again and again here and there.

Don't get the insurance lobby going on this!  Legislated insurance requirements benefit no one but the insurance company.  If they could get a bill through that required a one million liability policy that covered every gun the money they would make would be unbelievable.  Then you top it off with the fact that most guns that are used in crimes are not legally owned, there would be no insurance, and thus no pay out.

Based on other liability policies I have I can envision this costing $100 per year for the first gun and $25 - $50 for each additional.  Then there will be all the requirements for storage and use.

[JC5123]

I can take the heat.

"Shall not be infringed" still leaves room for reasonable restrictions. Somewhere between where DC and Chicago's present unreasonable restrictions are and Gerald Lee Loughner buying Ma Deuce at Wal-Mart no questions asked...

 

Yep. The slope is slippery...

If a 10 round limit is OK, why not 5?

If you can ban full auto guns made after a certain date, why not semi auto guns?

Can you require all gun owners to have liability insurance?

Is a license/registration to own OK? How much $ is too much for it?

Heller left a lot to be decided about which policy choices are on/off the table. Until the SCOTUS takes them off the table, they will keep coming up again and again here and there.

I will refer back to my earlier statement / question.

Who is it that defines "reasonable restrictions"? 

Also, this is a right granted to us by our creator, not the government. Isn't ANY restriction or regulation of our right considered infringement? Whether "reasonable" or not.

This is why I scratch my head at the BATFE. Why do we need a singular bureaucracy to regulate 4 items that are both legal, and already regulated by taxation? OH that's right, we had to make a job for all those prohibition pencil pushers!

[MikeO]

Who defines reasonable restrictions? Five justices on the Supreme Court.

[tombogan03884]

Who defines reasonable restrictions? Five justices on the Supreme Court.

Actually it comes down to the folks who are supposed to obey these edicts.
Nancy Reagan had the answer, "Just say NO".   

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[MikeBjerum]

When defining "reasonable restrictions" we need to remember that the United States Constitution is there to protect our Rights, not provide or give.  When protecting it is best done from the side of less is more.  In the case of the Second Amendment we have a word to weigh everything against, "infringed."  Aren't restrict and infringe pretty close in meaning?  Think about that anytime you say that "reasonable restrictions" should be implemented!

[fightingquaker13]

When defining "reasonable restrictions" we need to remember that the United States Constitution is there to protect our Rights, not provide or give.  When protecting it is best done from the side of less is more.  In the case of the Second Amendment we have a word to way everything against, "infringed."  Aren't restrict and infringe pretty close in meaning?  Think about that anytime you say that "reasonable restrictions" should be implemented!

Now, let's lets not be absolutist here. If we aren't willing to compromise, we'll be marginalized. Personally I think that if it requires a trailer hitch, a self propelled round,  or a fuse I'm open to discussion.
FQ13

[twyacht]

There isn't ONE aspect of our lives that doesn't involve some compliance with local, state, or Federal Law.

When does it stop? Salt? Smoking? Gallons Per Flush?, Light Bulbs? 10rds? 15rds? 30rds? The Commerce clause, and other regulatory powers granted to the Feds has been usurped, abused, and violated time and time again.

We have let it happen, and we have been warned, and still it happens.

"The job of bureaucrats is to regulate, and left to their own devices, they will try to regulate everything they can."
Steven den Beste

A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.

"More government equals less freedom. More freedom equals less government."

"Man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts."
Ronald Reagan

"Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry."
Thomas Paine

"Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare but only those specifically enumerated."
Thomas Jefferson

[billt]

The only "Reasonable Restrictions" are those placed on government.  Bill T.

[MikeBjerum]

Now, let's lets not be absolutist here. If we aren't willing to compromise, we'll be marginalized. Personally I think that if it requires a trailer hitch, a self propelled round,  or a fuse I'm open to discussion.
FQ13

Once again we will have to agree that I  WILL  NOT  AGREE  TO  DISAGREE  WITH  SOME  PEOPLE  AND  SOME  IDEAS !!!