CDC stats for 2007.

[Ichiban]

Some interesting reading in regards to firearms deaths (i.e. more suicides than homicides but unintentional poisonings were still much higher than either).
http://www.cdc.gov/NCHS/data/nvsr/nvsr58/nvsr58_19.pdf
Table 18, page 88.

[Timothy]

Thanks Ichiban...

Auto deaths still surpass firearms deaths and that's even if you leave in the suicides.  Remove that 17K (because they probably would have done the same WITHOUT a firearm) and you're down to 24K.

I don't hear anyone trying to ban motor vehicles, they're far more dangerous in the wrong hands.

BTW....you may want to change groomers, your dog (avatar) is looking a bit gruesome after his last visit!

 

[twyacht]

your dog has a better nose/snout, in your avatar.   

Thank you for the link.

[TAB]

the reason sucide deaths by guns are so common is, its pretty hard to fail with a gun, 

[tombogan03884]

No gun Japan has double our suicide rate.
But TAB is wrong I think. The gun is instant, and therefore relatively painless. As opposed to slitting wrists or hanging.
Women are far less likely to use guns which mar their appearance, generally men shoot themselves, women OD on pills or cut their wrists.

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[Timothy]

The report stated 17,342 suicides by firearm and 17,246 by "other means".

Seems that people that want kill themselves will get it done by one means or another.

[TAB]

No gun Japan has double our suicide rate.
But TAB is wrong I think. The gun is instant, and therefore relatively painless. As opposed to slitting wrists or hanging.
Women are far less likely to use guns which mar their appearance, generally men shoot themselves, women OD on pills or cut their wrists.

tom most people try to commit sucide, they don't want to kill them selfs really, its a cry for help.

It is as you mentioned instant.  takeing pills there is a short time before you die from it.  Same with slitting wrists. ( often its nothing more then a scratch as most people are really afraid of doing it).

[tombogan03884]

tom most people try to commit sucide, they don't want to kill them selfs really, its a cry for help.

It is as you mentioned instant.  takeing pills there is a short time before you die from it.  Same with slitting wrists. ( often its nothing more then a scratch as most people are really afraid of doing it).

True enough, but if 34,000 meant it, I wonder how many "attempts" there were ?  X10 ?

[TAB]

I'd say thats pretty close, maybe alittle less.