Make The Senate Majority Defend It!

[twyacht]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/house_passes_obamacare_repeal.html

Missed it in the MSM...Gee....

January 20, 2011
House passes Obamacare repeal: on to the Senate
Rick Moran
The House passed a measure that repeals Obamacare with a 245-189 vote. This represents a far larger margin of victory than proponents of health care reform got when they passed it in the first place.

Is this really a "symbolic" victory? We'll see. Even if the senate doesn't act on the bill, the statement has been made. This is important because even the Supreme Court is not immune to politics. A likely 5-4 vote on the constitutionality of the individual mandate is going to need all the political push it can get to convince wavering justices that the real will of the people is to rid us of this monstrosity.

Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell us assuring the GOP House members that he will get a vote in the senate on repeal:

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said he would "assure" a Senate vote on legislation to undo Democrats' healthcare reform law, despite Senate Democrats' opposition to holding such a vote.
    "I want to congratulate our colleagues in the House on this important first step. I hope the Senate will soon follow suit with a vote of its own," McConnell said in a video release following the successful 245-189 vote in the House to repeal the healthcare law.

    "The Democratic leadership in the Senate doesn't want to vote on this bill," McConnell added. "But I assure you, we will."

    Those assurances are a bold move by McConnell, who leads a larger Republican conference in the Senate, but still one that's in the minority. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has wide discretion in setting the Senate's calendar, and he's indicated little interest in bringing up repeal for a vote.

    Reid's been locked in a battle with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) over the issue of bringing up Republicans' newly-passed bill in the Senate. Cantor's argued that if Reid is so confident that such legislation wouldn't pass the Senate, he should bring it up for a vote anyway.

Cantor has a point. Put your money where you mouth is, Harry. Of course, Reid is reluctant to bring repeal to a vote because there are 23 Democratic senators up for re-election who will have to go back to the home folks and explain why they didn't vote to get rid of this white elephant while there was still time.

That is going to be a very hard sell come 2012.

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Can't have those Senators, actually get on the record defending what the majority of the country didn't enjoy getting rammed down our throats.

In case you were wondering:

    * Kent Conrad of North Dakota. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.
    * Claire McCaskill of Missouri. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.
    * Ben Nelson of Nebraska. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.
    * Bill Nelson of Florida. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.
    * Jon Tester of Montana. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.
    * Jim Webb of Virginia. Blue Senator, Red State. Up for re-election in 2012.

[Pathfinder]

BTW, Conrad has seen the writing on the wall has decided his lengthy tenure means it's time for him to retire, so he will not be running in 2012. It is public.

The seat will go pubbie, but it will likely be a soft pubbie.

[jaybet]

That's all well and good, but the Republicans are pissing me off now.
Health care bill, now they're working on abortion funding....they JUST DON"T GET IT.

They all got swept into office because a lot of people don't have JOBS. JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS!!!!

As soon as the election pressure is over they slip right back into their "Screw the Democrats" mode.

The Dems are asshats, but have you ever LISTENED to Mitch McConnel speak? What a pompous, self inflated jack-wagon (thanks for that one, Gunnie!).

I don't think there's a one of them that's worth the bus ticket home.

[fightingquaker13]

I'm hoping Tester and Webb make it. They are both good guys who "get it". Tester is a rancher and has gone to bat for the 2A early and often. It was him and his Mt. colleague Baucus, also a Dem, that allowed sales of military brass to continue. Webb is a thoughtful statesman and the best friend the military has had in the Senate is a long time. And by friend, I mean someone who is willing to say no when its the right thing to do. He was a Marine grunt in Nam  with a Navy Cross and Secretary of the Navy under Reagan and made it a habit of irritating the "perfumed princes" of the pentagon. He knows both sides of it. Read one of his books if you think he doesn't understand what's going on. "Fields of Fire" is a classic for  reason, its one of the best books on Vietnam out there. His non-fiction works on the Scots-Irish in America show a real understanding of the working man. This guy understands the real America. I would submit that they are both worth a hundred McConnell/Boehner clones. I have a soft spot for blue dogs because I think the 2A needs supporters in both parties if we want our rights to be protected. These two guys? I would vote early and often (edited per JCs request  ) cheerfully for both of them, Webb in particular, regardless of party just because I think the perspective they bring, regardless of an issue by issue rating is very valuable.
FQ13.

[Solus]

I've also seen that 27 states have filed court cases pushing to have "Obamacare" declared unconstitutional.  The more states that file, the greater influence that will have on all the courts.

I've also heard that the Republicans are pushing to make major cuts in Government spending, rolling back to 2008 levels.  This is a good start and it can't be bad.

The best thing the Government can do to get more jobs is to do nothing to try to manage the economy. to force the creation of new jobs, and to do everything it can to reduce taxes and unnecessary paperwork and restrictions on business.  Taking the Fed out behind the barn and shooting it would be a nice touch also.

If you want Consumer Protection, take a page for China's book.  Prove those responsible knowingly made decisions that lead to a death and you shoot them.  Few businessmen are going to find a favorable risk analysis outcome if that penalty is sure and swift.

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[Bidah]

FQ, I will agree and disagree with you on Baucus and Tester.  Baucus voted FOR the AWB, and we tried very unsuccessfully to get him out of there.  He finally turned a bit back to our side, but he is still not a big supporter.  Tester being new, is another story.  Despite what he has done recently trying to portray himself, he is not a 2A supporter.  Sure, hunting with single shots is ok in his book, but past that he goes mushy.  We are trying to get him out of his seat come 2012.  I also suspect that Baucus will retire since he is not in good graces here since he authored the obamacare monstrosity.

Baucus did do well on the brass fiasco, and that may have a lot to do with the being the chairman of an important committee..

-Bidah

[JC5123]

I'm hoping Tester and Webb make it. They are both good guys who "get it". Tester is a rancher and has gone to bat for the 2A early and often. It was him and his Mt. colleague Baucus, also a Dem, that allowed sales of military brass to continue. Webb is a thoughtful statesman and the best friend the military has had in the Senate is a long time. And by friend, I mean someone who is willing to say no when its the right thing to do. He was a Marine grunt in Nam  with a Navy Cross and Secretary of the Navy under Reagan and made it a habit of irritating the "perfumed princes" of the pentagon. He knows both sides of it. Read one of his books if you think he doesn't understand what's going on. "Fields of Fire" is a classic for  reason, its one of the best books on Vietnam out there. His non-fiction works on the Scots-Irish in America show a real understanding of the working man. This guy understands the real America. I would submit that they are both worth a hundred McConnell/Boehner clones. I have a soft spot for blue dogs because I think the 2A needs supporters in both parties if we want our rights to be protected. These two guys? I would vote early and often for both of them, Webb in particular, regardless of party just because I think the perspective they bring, regardless of an issue by issue rating is very valuable.
FQ13.

Not to hijack the thread, but would someone explain to me where this STUPID phrase came from? I can only assume it's from reality tv. What MORON in American politics thought it would be a good idea to instill the idea that you get to vote more than once? My guess is John Q JackA$$ (D) Washington D.C.  

[fightingquaker13]

Not to hijack the thread, but would someone explain to me where this STUPID phrase came from? I can only assume it's from reality tv. What MORON in American politics thought it would be a good idea to instill the idea that you get to vote more than once? My guess is John Q JackA$$ (D) Washington D.C.  

Its a long standing Florida tradition. Actually, pretty much across the deep South and places like Chicago, New Orleans and New Jersey (party doesn't enter into it, except for "the icumbent party'). Ignore the phrase. Mea culpa, I will edit and not mock political corruption (too much).  
FQ13

[JC5123]

Its a long standing Florida tradition. Actually, pretty much across the deep South and places like Chicago, New Orleans and New Jersey. Ignore the phrase. Mea culpa, I will edit and not mock political corruption (too much). 
FQ13

Thanks for solving the mystery. I always wondered how a state could screw up every election that I can remember. Doing it once so bad that we had to sue to get the results. 

[Solus]

Not to hijack the thread, but would someone explain to me where this STUPID phrase came from? I can only assume it's from reality tv. What MORON in American politics thought it would be a good idea to instill the idea that you get to vote more than once? My guess is John Q JackA$$ (D) Washington D.C.  

Source of "Vote Early and Often"

The cynical phrases "Vote early -- and often" and "Vote early -- and vote often" are variously attributed to three different Chicagoans: Al Capone, the famous gangster; Richard J. Daley, mayor from 1955 to 1976; and William Hale Thompson, mayor from 1915-1923 and 1931-1935. All three were notorious for their corruption and their manipulation of the democratic process. It is most likely that Thompson invented the phrase, and Capone and Daley later repeated it.



The quote has been around a long time and most folks aware of Chicago politics recognize it and it's roots and understand it's non-literal intent.