Obama victory in 2012

[tombogan03884]

Pawlenty ?

[fightingquaker13]

Newt is definately in the race. He's forming an exploratory committe and is schmoozing with Ga. movers and shakers. I'm a bit torn by this. On the one hand, he's a very smart guy with ideas and he has  plan. On the other hand, he's kind of an asshole and very polarizing. Plus, he's been (I think accurately) described as a guy who is easily sold on the last good idea he heard. Not a bad trait for an academic, but we don't need another President with ADD. Still, between him, Palin, Romney or Huckabee, Newt has my vote.
FQ13

[Timothy]

Pawlenty ?

That's just an Italian name for grits, ain't it?

 

ba da bing, ba dum dum!!!!!!!!

tip your waiters and waitresses....I'll be here FOREVER!

 

[tombogan03884]

Newt is definately in the race. He's forming an exploratory committe and is schmoozing with Ga. movers and shakers. I'm a bit torn by this. On the one hand, he's a very smart guy with ideas and he has  plan. On the other hand, he's kind of an asshole and very polarizing. Plus, he's been (I think accurately) described as a guy who is easily sold on the last good idea he heard. Not a bad trait for an academic, but we don't need another President with ADD. Still, between him, Palin, Romney or Huckabee, Newt has my vote.
FQ13

You're the one that voted for Obummer because you claim Palin had no experience :
This is part of an E-mail I received;

By Dewie Whetsell,  Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.

The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska .  I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year.  Here's the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it.  It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing things.  Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.

1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing.  Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits.  The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well, you know how they are).  Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.

2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here.  So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES."  Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out."  They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich.  Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line.  Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork."   She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself).  I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America.  No one else could do it although they tried.  If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.

5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling.  In truth they were holding it like an investment.  No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action.  She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house.   Alaska won again.

6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025.  Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025.  We are already at 25%.

What did Obummer ever do, except take credit for community projects that other people started, and inflate his academic credentials ?

Tim Pawlenty :

http://www.ontheissues.org/Tim_Pawlenty.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pawlenty

http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Tim_Pawlenty

[Herknav]

The problem with FQ's analysis is that we ARE NOT a "Democratic" Republic, but a "Constitutional Republic". In a Democratic Republic the majority vote makes the rules, under a Constitutional Republic there are defined limits on what the majority can do.

By the book, you're absolutely correct.  However, the effect of the 10th Amendment has been largely non-existent due to lack of gov't restraint.

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[tombogan03884]

By the book, you're absolutely correct.  However, the effect of the 10th Amendment has been largely non-existent due to lack of gov't restraint.

And that is part of the reason I have such a low opinion of the voting public.
In a Govt "of the people" who is responsible for reining in Govt excess ?

[Timothy]

And that is part of the reason I have such a low opinion of the voting public.
In a Govt "of the people" who is responsible for reining in Govt excess ?

Good points....

Without generalizing, I'd bet most people who went to the polls a few months ago, didn't know who their Congressman's name until the months before the election.  I'm always badgering mine, their email addresses are in my contact lists.

"We The People" need to get involved.  I can say, in my own family, my wife and daughter have no idea who their Congresscritter is or their Senators.  Where I work, I see pretty much the same thing. 

The people who are chartered to listen to us are our Congresspersons and we can replace the bums every two years.  Here in CT, they gave all five of them their jobs back even though it's been proven they failed in those jobs miserably.

Nuff said...

[PegLeg45]

Good points....

Without generalizing, I'd bet most people who went to the polls a few months ago, didn't know who their Congressman's name until the months before the election.  I'm always badgering mine, their email addresses are in my contact lists.

"We The People" need to get involved.  I can say, in my own family, my wife and daughter have no idea who their Congresscritter is or their Senators.  Where I work, I see pretty much the same thing.  

The people who are chartered to listen to us are our Congresspersons and we can replace the bums every two years.  Here in CT, they gave all five of them their jobs back even though it's been proven they failed in those jobs miserably.

+1...especially on the "get involved" part.

My newly elected US Congress representative, Austin Scott (R-GA), just happens to be the son of my orthopedic surgeon. He was our state rep for 14 years and has a fairly decent head on his shoulders.
I'm sure he will get tired of hearing from me over the next two years (  ).

To his early credit, he is already polling his constituents through several networking areas and asking what we want him to address in congressional meetings (including a White House meeting with the POTUS). I know there is no such thing as an ideal 'politician'...but at least he is trying and I'll give him that for now.