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Oh Canada, Oh Canada... Makes You Wonder....
« on: January 24, 2011, 09:24:10 PM »
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/20/man-faces-jail-after-protecting-home-from-masked-attackers/#ixzz1BpYL9ABq

Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

Peter J. Thompson/National Post
Ian Thomson’s home in Port Colborne, Ont., was firebombed in August. He has been charged with careless use of a firearm in connection with the incident.


Tamsin McMahon  January 20, 2011 – 9:20 pm

Ian Thomson moved to a rural homestead in Southwestern Ontario to lead a quiet life investing in a little fixer-upper. Then his neighbour’s chickens began showing up on his property. He warned his neighbour, then killed one of the birds.

The incident began six years of trouble for Mr. Thomson that culminated early one Sunday morning last August when the 53-year-old former mobile-crane operator woke up to the sound of three masked men firebombing his Port Colborne, Ont., home.


“I was horrified,” he said. “I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t know what was happening. I had no idea what was going on.”

So Mr. Thomson, a former firearms instructor, grabbed one of his Smith & Wesson revolvers from his safe, loaded it and headed outside dressed in only his underwear.


“He exited his house and fired his revolver two, maybe three times, we’re not sure. Then these firebombing culprits, they ran off,” said his lawyer, Edward Burlew.


His surveillance cameras caught the attackers lobbing at least six Molotov cocktails at his house and bombing his doghouse, singeing one of his Siberian Huskies. But when Mr. Thomson handed the video footage to Niagara Regional Police, he found himself charged with careless use of a firearm.


The local Crown attorney’s office later laid a charge of pointing a firearm, along with two counts of careless storage of a firearm. The Crown has recommended Mr. Thomson go to jail, his lawyer said.


His collection of seven guns, five pistols and two rifles was seized, along with his firearms licence. Mr. Thomson said he lives in fear that his attackers will return and has taken to arming himself with a fire extinguisher.


“I don’t have enemies,” said the soft-spoken man, who now studies environmental geosciences full-time at Brock University after being injured in a workplace accident. “I don’t know that many people. I’m a quiet man. I just want to go back to my life and be able to live out my days in relative peace.”

Mr. Thomson’s is the latest in a series of high-profile cases in which people have been charged after defending their homes and businesses against criminals. Central Alberta farmer Brian Knight became a local hero after shooting a thief who was trying to steal his ATV. He pleaded guilty to criminal negligence earlier this month. In October, Toronto shopkeeper David Chen was acquitted of forcible confinement charges after he tied up a repeat shoplifter and demanded he stop raiding his grocery store
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Their cases are renewing calls for Canada to introduce a version of the “Castle Doctrine” found in many U.S. states, which allows citizens to defend their property with force.

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Ian Thomson, who is a Brock University Environmental Geo Sciences student, was attacked by people throwing molotov cocktails at his home near Port Colborne in August of 2010

“I hear some people, some being police officers, some being Crown attorneys, some being ordinary people, say we don’t want vigilantism, to which I can only give an emphatic pardon me?” Mr. Burlew said. “When you’re under attack, it’s not a vigilante act. Vigilantism talks about vengeance and retribution. This is about saving your life and saving your property.

“I’m sure that will be recognized at trial, but why would a citizen, where it’s so obvious that what he was doing was protecting himself during a continued attack, be put to the expense of a trial? It’s demeaning.”

Canada allows people to claim self-defence for using force, including guns, to protect their life as long as the force is reasonable and they believe they have no other options.


“If the public are wondering can you run out of your house and [fire a handgun at an intruder], the bottom line is, according to the laws of Canada, no, you can’t,” said Constable Nilan Dave of the Niagara Regional Police Service, which charged Mr. Thomson. “That’s why the courts are there, to give a person an opportunity to explain their actions.”

Mr. Burlew, a Toronto-area lawyer whose practice mainly consists of firearms-related charges, said he is trying to hire a psychiatrist to prove that Mr. Thomson feared for his life when he grabbed his revolver. A target shooter and hunting-safety instructor, Mr. Thomson had the skill to shoot his attackers if he’d wanted to, Mr. Burlew said, but missed on purpose.

Police said no one was injured in the shooting and the attackers got into a car and sped off. They charged Randy Weaver, 48, of Port Colborne, and Justin Lee, 19, of Welland, with arson in December, alleging the men and a third suspect “intentionally set the home on fire while the homeowner was inside.”

Mr. Thomson’s neighbour, who had received a suspended sentence for uttering threats against Mr. Thomson in 2007, has not been charged in connection with the attack on his house.

Mr. Thomson said he has added extra security to his home after the firebombing and hardly sleeps anymore. The charges, he said, have destroyed him.

“This is just an absolute nightmare, this whole thing,” he said. “People need to know that this is what can happen to you and which side of the victim line do you want to stand on? Lying down dead or in court? That’s the way it seems it has to go.”


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Is this the path that Canada, Australia, and most of Europe get to look forward too? Guilty till proven innocent? Why didn't you just go to court, as they were firebombing your house,....ya' know,....to work this all out....with the courts.....

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Re: Oh Canada, Oh Canada... Makes You Wonder....
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 09:28:03 PM »
England is just as bad.
That's the difference between being a "Citizen" and being a "subject".

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Re: Oh Canada, Oh Canada... Makes You Wonder....
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 09:33:12 PM »
Sad he's been diminished to a fire extinguisher for SD, even though the threat of retribution still exists. Perhaps the Mounties, and the Prosecutor can justify his loss of personal property and threat to his life much better in court...

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Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 09:34:32 PM »
I just don't get this metality. Its utterly alien to me. I get that we aren't cops, and that no one want's a Charles Bronson type out looking for trouble. But when they are throwing firebombs at your house? What are you supposed to do? Self defense is a fundamental human right. Its arguably the most basic human right. Why is that not universally obvious? What are these people thinking? I really do not understand the basic premises that underline their arguments. ???
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Re: Oh Canada, Oh Canada... Makes You Wonder....
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 09:41:24 PM »
Violence is the privilege of the state, not the subjects

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 12:36:29 AM »
If your going to goto jail for defending your life and home you may as well drop the bastards doing it, you will probably get less time.  >:(
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 07:45:59 AM »
If your going to goto jail for defending your life and home you may as well drop the bastards doing it, you will probably get less time.  >:(

If nothing else, you will have fewer witnesses for the persecution prosecution. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 08:12:56 AM »
If nothing else, you will have fewer witnesses for the persecution prosecution. 

There was a guy, John Coin, if I remember correctly who used to drive a tank around downtown Cincinnati with signs calling the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office run by Sheriff Simon Leis the Gestapo.

Coin ran a local junk yard and lived on the property. 

One night 5 people invaded the junk yard and Coin shot and killed 4 of them and wounded the other.  They turned out to all be teenagers, one of whom worked for Coin at the junk yard.

Coin went to trial and the 4 killings were ruled justifiable homicide but he was convicted of some charge in the shooting and wounding of the 5th teen, who appeared in court well dressed and looking very young and innocent.  Coin was sentenced to two years  in the Ohio State prison in Lucasville.  He was killed in the riot there in April of 1993.

There is little doubt that he would have been acquitted of all charges had he killed the 5th teenager rather than wounding him.

 
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 09:37:35 AM »
If nothing else, you will have fewer witnesses for the persecution prosecution. 

Crusader,

I think you did a strike through on the wrong word. ;)
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 10:30:05 AM »
Crusader,

I think you did a strike through on the wrong word. ;)

I think yer right.
“I’ve lived the literal meaning of the ‘land of the free’ and ‘home of the brave.’ It’s not corny for me. I feel it in my heart. I feel it in my chest. Even at a ball game, when someone talks during the anthem or doesn’t take off his hat, it pisses me off. I’m not one to be quiet about it, either.”  Chris Kyle

 

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