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Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« on: January 26, 2011, 10:51:25 AM »
I've never been the type to make New Years resolutions but I did so this year. I have put off taking the training class and making application as required for my CCW permit here in Missouri for the last few years but have resolved to do so in 2011.

It came to my attention that I was severely lacking in an acceptable CCW platform so I will be correcting that in the next couple of weeks with the purchase of a New Model 19 Gen 3 Glock....Having owned them in the past I know this will be a good choice for my needs.

I intend to make a couple of common sense updates to the 19 after purchasing it with the idea that reliability comes first and foremost over all else.
The first mod I have in mind is the addition of a set of after market sights, my criteria is that they not be of the plastic variety and that they be smooth and not likely to hang up drawing from under a garment.
Looking around I am leaning hard towards the Heinie Slant Pro line just haven't decided if I want the 318 or the 3190? It's my understanding that the only difference is the 3190 has a wider and deeper cut rear notch for quicker acquisition and better low light visibility....and was hoping that someone might be able to add a little (No pun intended) insight to this question?

Other modifications I want to complete is the addition of the New York Trigger spring and a 3.5 disconnector...I am undecided though on if I want to also add an extended mag release such as the Zev Tech Extended Magazine Release (offered on the GlockStore.Com website?)

With the Glock riding in a CrossBreed Super Tuck Deluxe...after a few hundred rounds of practice ammo to wring out the gun I hope to be well equipped and prepared for the qualification portion of the CCW class and for carrying in the next couple of months.

I would appreciate any comments from those with experience in this equipment...and suggestions for other mods that might be useful to the Mod 19 as the ones I have owned in the past were all box stock.

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 11:36:26 AM »
I'd suggest you shoot that "few hundred rounds" first without any mods. If you are hitting your targets and able to make follow up shots then leave the gun stock. Get that CCW then take that training class.
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 11:40:33 AM »
I'd suggest you shoot that "few hundred rounds" first without any mods. If you are hitting your targets and able to make follow up shots then leave the gun stock. Get that CCW then take that training class.

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Re: Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 11:45:31 AM »
I would shoot several hundred rounds first. They have very good factory nightsights available. Not sure but a new york trigger is heavier, and a 3.5 conector is lighter

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 11:47:51 AM »
I would deep six the plastic sights for a more durable set, then spend the rest on practice ammo. The ny trigger makes the trigger about 12 to 14 lbs not a good thing in a SD pistol.
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 12:03:04 PM »
For God's sake don't add the NY triger. It sucks beyond the telling (the words New York ought to be warning enough ;D). The standard 5.5 pound with the break is just fine. As far as sights, I wouldn't mess with them unless you want tritium. The only thing I would think about is a laser. I've never used one, but you can get a Glock laser that just replaces the guide rod so it doesn't change the grip or make it hard to find a holster. Still the consensus is correct. Shoot the heck out of the stock model first. Then buy a solution for any problems YOU find. Don't assume problems where there might not be any. It'll save you money.
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 12:59:31 PM »
I agree that for the most part shooting a new gun first before making any mods is preferrable and it is not my attention to pooh pooh anyones advice here as it is genuinely appreciated.
That being said perhaps I should have been a little more descriptive of this in my initial posting.

I have a considerable amount of experience with the Glock platform....having owned many Glocks in just about every caliber and configuration available in the Gen-2 and Gen-3 guns. 
A couple of them were customized to differing degrees depending upon what my intended use was for them at the time.
I have owned three of the compact models, two of those being 19's in the past, but never had one specifically for a CCW gun.

I guess my real questions are more in line with the selection of the Heinie Slant Pro Sights...and the use of the extended mag release for a Concealed Carry gun...I do plan on getting rid of the factory plastic sights...thus my question about the Slant Pro's.

I had a 1911 with Heinie sights on it that I used for IPSC back in the mid 1980's...the Slant Pro's seem to be highly recommended for the Glock 19 platform. I just haven't found anyone with real life experience on the Heinie 3190 Qwik 3-D sight.  The rear sight has a notch cut .156" wide and .120" deep for quicker sight picture acqusition.

As for the mag release my concerns are with accidental mag releases during the draw from the extended button...some say this fear is unfounded...but I have had it happen in a Desantis speed rig during a match, so it seems possible tcould happen drawing from concealment.

I know the stock trigger is a useable trigger for me but in the future I know I will be making some mods to the trigger group anyway...I made the NY Trigger Mod with the 3.5 connector in the past to a previous Model 17 Gen-3 ..I came out with a very smooth trigger that broke cleanly in the 5 pound range.  The NY trigger spring mod is said to improve the resetting qualities being that it is a push to compress spring and not a pull to load type.

As far as shooting the gun goes...I relaod just about every caliber that I currently own or have ever owned...this includes some .32 acp, .380 acp and the 9 mm...so getting familiar with this pistol isn't going to be an issue.

The class I spoke of is a requirement prior to making application in Missouri...8-hours of classroom followed by a live fire qualification. The qualification requires that you shoot 75%...a 15 out of 20 is what the website says...at 7 yards...I use to shoot IPSC and some PPC matches so I am really not to worried about that portion of the testing.

As I stated guys...I appreciate any advice...and I don't dismiss even the most basic of it...I'm a believer in the K.I.S.S. concepts for the most part and I think too many times we tend to forget about the basics in favor of the newest and flashiest.
 
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 01:11:00 PM »
I wonder about your choice of sights. Many trainers advocate using the sights as a way to manipulate the gun one handed. A set of smooth low profile sights takes away that ability. You may take a look at the other types of sights that have a ledge on the front side of the rear sight. Then again I haven't made this change to my SD pistols yet so I am kind of being a hypocrite here.

Enjoy your new Glock.

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 01:22:43 PM »
Put XS big dot tritium on my G27 really helps my old eyes my dad said it's kinda like looking at a headlight.And it supports DRTV
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 03:35:21 PM »
If you find that you want to change the sights look at Warren Tactical.  I have a set of the two dot night sights on a G23 and the black rear/fiber front on a G17. One thing to keep in mind though is the fiber/plain set definately is more picky with ammo.  Win white box is on/on but UMC yellow bulk packs shoot LOW.  I haven't noticed much difference with the night set, but I tend to only use them same ammo.

The NY-1 spring and 3.5# disconnect does make a little difference in "spongy-ness" at least in my G17.  It is a little smoother but not heavier than the stock G23. 

That said, the best mod for CCW is only the sights, maybe, since any mechanical mod is a liability issue if you actually have to use it. IMHO  "He modified the gun to make it easier to shoot faster..."
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