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Re: ATF Study Released On The Importability Of Shotguns....Re: Saiga 12g etc,.
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 10:49:19 PM »
That means that a firearm that has some of the listed items can't be imported. Saigas aren't fitted with any of the listed items at the factory. These are all after market additions. Does that mean that the import license will be approved?
Same question applies to AKs. Suppose they follow the letter of the law. AKs should still be Kosher assuming they meet the domestic parts test. Com bloc mags may be out, but does that apply to Tapcos? Maybe this will lead to a US company getting to buy the license to produce a US AK (maybe Ruger, I'm sure Bill would love it, here's a scout rifle for you ;D).
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Re: ATF Study Released On The Importability Of Shotguns....Re: Saiga 12g etc,.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 12:47:21 AM »
Same question applies to AKs. Suppose they follow the letter of the law. AKs should still be Kosher assuming they meet the domestic parts test. Com bloc mags may be out, but does that apply to Tapcos? Maybe this will lead to a US company getting to buy the license to produce a US AK (maybe Ruger, I'm sure Bill would love it, here's a scout rifle for you ;D).
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You mean like the Sig that I posted about a few days ago ?

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=15351.msg197506#msg197506

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Re: ATF Study Released On The Importability Of Shotguns....Re: Saiga 12g etc,.
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 12:51:21 AM »
You mean like the Sig that I posted about a few days ago ?
Do they have the full license or just for parts? Granted I'm not keen on dropping 7 bills on an AK, but I would be curious to see what one made in a US plant with CNC technology could do. It would be very interesting to see how the basic design, if well built would compare with a $350 Wasser.
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Re: ATF Study Released On The Importability Of Shotguns....Re: Saiga 12g etc,.
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 12:53:57 AM »
I don't know, if you follow the link you will know as much as I do about it.

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Re: ATF Study Released On The Importability Of Shotguns....Re: Saiga 12g etc,.
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 05:32:20 AM »
Read the current issue of American Rifleman. Chris Cox writes after a FOIA request from the ATF, the gun control advocates are strategically planning to BYPASS Congress.

Which the ATF has done as recently as last year. May 2010, Bypassed a 1969 Court ruling allowing temporary transfer to businesses i.e sending a pistol to Guns & Ammo etc,... et al, for a pistol review/test. Now a 4473 and bg check is required.

The Nat. Firearms Trade & Collectors Assoc. were targeted when ATF wanted to change "small arms ammo" parameters. It would've created any caliber over 50 cal,. to be treated as "explosive", requiring an expensive and lengthy permitting process for big game hunters and shooters. Like .600 Nitro.

Thankfully the Safari Club, NRA met with ATF, and backed them down.

Hillary Clinton revoked permission of over 800,000 M1 Carbines & Garands from S. Korea. A description of the goose chase for an explanation is still ongoing.

There is, thankfully folks like us that contact our Congresscritters, and there is pending legislation to strip the State Dept. of such authority.

Plenty of executive/admin.bureaucratic "loopholes" to help the anti's get crap through. Without CONGRESS.

cited from Feb. 2011 American Rifleman, pg 16-18. Titled "End Run".

I urge everyone to take a couple minutes to read it. Andrew Traver (new head of ATF) aka BHO's buddy from Chicago, in coordination with AG Holder, Hillary, and the regular anti folks, are ramping this kinda crap up.

Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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