Why BHO will probably be re-elected

[sledgemeister]

Question: what would happen at election time if you made it compulsory to vote for all citizens?

Who would be the winners, dems or republicans?

[TAB]

I don't think it would make a diffrence.  As always its the moderates that dictate the winner.


In the last election, it was BHO getting those to vote that won him the election.  The GOP throwing out a dead fish, then compounding the prob by adding palin, didn't help either.

[billt]

The GOP throwing out a dead fish, then compounding the prob by adding palin, didn't help either.

If it wasn't for Palin, McCain would have lost by an even greater margin than he did. Palin was the only bright spot in his entire campaign. Proof of that is her current popularity. Where was Geraldine Ferraro 2 years after her losing campaign with Mondale? If you want an accurate assessment of Palins power in the current Republican Party, look at how much attention the dems give her. She speaks and they jump on it. They fear her. If they didn't they would be giving her the same amount of attention the GOP did to Ferraro. None. The Indians used to shout at people they feared. It's a trait that's hard to mask.  Bill T.

[TAB]

what palin did was get the hard core right excited, she turned the moderates and the undecided off.

it really was the death blow.  You know its bad when all of the news stations( including fox) said they basicly handed the presidency over with in a week of McCain picking her.



She did not even finish her term, just look where she is now, doing reality TV...

[billt]

She did not even finish her term, just look where she is now, doing reality TV.

And earning a fortune in the process. I like the way other people are always advising others on their best financial interests, that would most certainly lead them into bankruptcy. Here are the facts. Palin would have earned $125,000.00 if she would have finished the year out as Alaska's Governor. $250,000.00 if she finished her term, (depending how the salary is paid). Since July she has earned over $12,000,000.00, (12 MILLION). Not to mention her job was a dead end going nowhere.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002412-503544.html

Real tough choice. Now, the "experts" would have rather seen her stay on, go nowhere, and earn nothing in the process. But they don't have to feed her family, or pay her bills. Not to mention her daughter is making a fortune off her mothers popularity as well. It's always easy to throw away other peoples money.

McCain got the votes he did because of Palin and the hard right. Without her he never would have gotten their votes. Everytime the GOP runs moderates they lose. They did with McCain as well, but without the conservative right they would have been slaughtered. The Tea Party, along with it's success can be attributed to her all but directly. She packed every rally they had where she appeared. They are now a political force to be reckoned with, and the Republicans listen to them. They better. Her endorsement is worth more to any Republican candidate than anyone else. Who else is there for that matter? Huckabee? Old school Romney? No matter how much you hate Palin, you have to be at least realistic about where she's been, and what she's done, along with her value to the Republicans, Fox News, and most every conservative out there. The only thing that would have been stupid was for her to stay in that freezer pit earning zilch, with nowhere to go afterward but down. Right now her only problem is spending what she makes, which at the present time is all but unlimited, and deciding what offer or book deal to take next.  Bill T.

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[tombogan03884]

what palin did was get the hard core right excited, she turned the moderates and the undecided off.

it really was the death blow.  You know its bad when all of the news stations( including fox) said they basicly handed the presidency over with in a week of McCain picking her.



She did not even finish her term, just look where she is now, doing reality TV...

That is not a valid argument, BHO  did not finish his senate term either.
It was the RINO McCain that gave the election to Obummer.
Remember when the woman talking to McC referred to BHO as a socialist ? McCain defended Obummer.  WTF  ?

Bill, there are several decent candidates out there. Tim Pawlenty, and Michele Bachmann for 2. Newt ?  Bobby Jindal.

[billt]

Bill, there are several decent candidates out there. Tim Pawlenty, and Michele Bachmann for 2. Newt ?  Bobby Jindal.

But how many are electable, or can raise the money to run? I agree on the guys you mentioned, and would add Thune from South Dakota, but again the question of their electability comes up. Especially for Bachmann who is Palin without the popularity, higher negatives, and more baggage. Same with Newt. He and Romney are about the only ones thus far who can raise the money needed, but have too high of negatives. The more you look at a lot of these guys, the more electable Palin becomes. The biggest question surrounding her is not so much if she can win, but rather why would she want the headache? Her life has never been better.   Bill T.

[TAB]

That is not a valid argument, BHO  did not finish his senate term either.
It was the RINO McCain that gave the election to Obummer.
Remember when the woman talking to McC referred to BHO as a socialist ? McCain defended Obummer.  WTF  ?

Bill, there are several decent candidates out there. Tim Pawlenty, and Michele Bachmann for 2. Newt ?  Bobby Jindal.

BHO did not quit while under investagtion.  He had also been elected to a higher office.  Not that I agree with what he did.  I firmly beleave you should not be allowed to be elected to another office, unless your term is complete.  Now if some one passes away or for some reason the seat opens up, then you should be allowed to run, but you will also have to run for your current seat.   As both will be on the ballot.

My $.02, you took a oath to do a job.  you do the job reguardless of the out come. 

Atleast the way I see it, thats a big part of being a adult.

How would you like it if I was building your house, the stoped half way thru becuase I got a better paying contract?  Or stoped becuase I had made a mistake and was not going to make/lose money?

The one thing no one can take form you is your intergratiy, you are the one that gives it away.

[tombogan03884]

But how many are electable, or can raise the money to run? I agree on the guys you mentioned, and would add Thune from South Dakota, but again the question of their electability comes up. Especially for Bachmann who is Palin without the popularity, higher negatives, and more baggage. Same with Newt. He and Romney are about the only ones thus far who can raise the money needed, but have too high of negatives. The more you look at a lot of these guys, the more electable Palin becomes. The biggest question surrounding her is not so much if she can win, but rather why would she want the headache? Her life has never been better.   Bill T.

Romney is nothing but another "f*cking RINO".  He would be a "give away candidate" like McC. I'm not sure that Newt will get enough support, on one hand, he has been out for nearly 20 years, on the other hand that seems to have helped Jerry Brown get elected out in Ca.
Another one is our current (as of last Friday ) Ambassador to China. He was appointed by Bush, the only other thing I have heard about him is that he just (Monday ? ) resigned his post to explore a Presidential run in either 12 or 16.
Over the next 14 - 18 months we will see how it all shakes out.

[Solus]

BHO did not quit while under investagtion.  He had also been elected to a higher office.  Not that I agree with what he did.  I firmly beleave you should not be allowed to be elected to another office, unless your term is complete.  Now if some one passes away or for some reason the seat opens up, then you should be allowed to run, but you will also have to run for your current seat.   As both will be on the ballot.

My $.02, you took a oath to do a job.  you do the job reguardless of the out come.  

Atleast the way I see it, thats a big part of being a adult.

How would you like it if I was building your house, the stoped half way thru becuase I got a better paying contract?  Or stoped becuase I had made a mistake and was not going to make/lose money?

The one thing no one can take form you is your intergratiy, you are the one that gives it away.

Palin did more to benefit the state of Alaska in her short term as governor that most politicians do for their constituents in their lifetime as Politicians.

The way the media and the left were hounding her roadblocked any thing she might try to accomplish as governor.  She knew that that had turned her into a liability to the state.  She left so perhaps her replacement might be able to accomplish something.

If you were building my house and because of forces beyond your control, you could not effectively complete the job I was paying you for, I'd hope you would have the integrity to bow out so I could get the job done.  Sticking with the job in those circumstances would not show integrity but bull headed stubbornness  and a lack of regard of the needs of those who paid you.