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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hawaii-considers-banning-toy-gun-sales/

Hawaii Considers Banning Toy Gun Sales to Minors

When squirt guns are outlawed, will only outlaws have squirt guns?

Hawaii is currently considering adding some fairly serious restrictions on the sale of toy guns. TOY GUNS… like cap guns, squirt guns, pop guns, etc.   From HB number 432;

    RELATING TO TOY GUNS.

    BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF HAWAII:

    SECTION 1.  Chapter 709, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:

    “§709- Sale of toy guns to minors prohibited.
(1)  It shall be unlawful to sell, attempt to sell, or offer for sale a toy gun to a minor under eighteen years of age; provided that it shall be an affirmative defense to any prosecution that the:

    (a)   Purchaser falsely represented the purchaser‘s age by producing a driver’s license bearing a photograph of the licensee, a state identification card, or similar card purporting to be a valid identification card indicating that the purchaser was eighteen years of age or older;

    (b)   Appearance of the purchaser was such that an ordinary prudent person would believe the purchaser to be eighteen years of age or older; and

    (c)   Sale was made in good faith relying upon the indicators of age in paragraphs (a) and (b).

    (2)  Any person who violates this section shall be subject to a fine of not more than $2,000, imprisonment of not more than ninety days, or both.”

    SECTION 2.  This Act does not affect rights and duties that matured, penalties that were incurred, and proceedings that were begun before its effective date.

    SECTION 3.  New statutory material is underscored.

    SECTION 4.  This Act shall take effect upon its approval.

The proposed legislation is reported to have come from Democrat Scott K. Saiki, who has been represented the state’s 22nd district since 1996. Representative Saiki apparently believes that selling a toy gun to anyone under the age of 18 is a crime that would require a fine up to $2000, 90 days in jail or BOTH.


Requests for any data supporting the rationale for this proposed legislation have been made to Saiki’s office. Are squirt guns and toy guns considered to be “gateway weapons” that lead to more gun use later in life?  This information might be helpful to other states considering such monitoring and legislating of toy sales.  Seriously.

It should also be noted that while this information about the proposed law was copied, verbatim, from the website of the Hawaiian House of Representatives, at the very bottom of the page is the following disclaimer;

The summary description of legislation appearing on this page is for informational purposes only and is not legislation or evidence of legislative intent.

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Really?  :-\
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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 06:39:05 PM »
Beleave it or not Hawaii has the most gun restriction in the nation.  Even IL is no were close to them.

I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 06:48:53 PM »
Fresca sucks but I like Squirt....

Hawaii is the little state that shouldn't....cut it loose and give it back to whomever we stole it from.  God Bless those that are interned there after December 7, 1941 but I have no use for it since...

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 06:54:01 PM »
we should sell it to china for the price of wiping our debt clean.

It really is a waste.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 06:58:26 PM »
we should sell it to china for the price of wiping our debt clean.

It really is a waste.

For once, young Sir, we agree on something.

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1.2 million people?  Even f....k Rhode Island has more...and it's just a pathway between CT and MA...

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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 07:01:22 PM »
Does this mean the flip flop wearing ATF, with Don Ho shirts will be coming after a 10 year old's "Pre-Ban" high capacity Nerf Assault Rifle?

How about those large caliber Assault "Super Soakers"  ??? Man,,,you can really get soak someone bad with one...
Whatever happened to Lawn Darts??? :P

Geez,.....
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Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 07:03:33 PM »
Don't those people have lives?  Bill T.

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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 07:07:21 PM »
ATF agents are just collecting a government check every other week, just like everyone else.  Some may not have a choice.

We all do what we may not want to do on a daily basis.....it's not a job I would do willingly but some may.

I blame those that deserve the blame.  The people that allow this sort of misguided, ignorant, short sided and misinformed legislation.

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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 07:37:33 PM »
ATF agents are just collecting a government check every other week, just like everyone else.  Some may not have a choice.

We all do what we may not want to do on a daily basis.....it's not a job I would do willingly but some may.

I blame those that deserve the blame.  The people that allow this sort of misguided, ignorant, short sided and misinformed legislation.


The fed pays once a month and only once a month.
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Re: Hawaii Proposes To Ban Toy Gun Sales To Children. Yes, Even Squirt Guns.
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 07:41:51 PM »

The fed pays once a month and only once a month.

When I worked for Unka Sam, I got paid on the 15th and the 30th....I guess the Military got special privileges.  My wife gets paid on the 3rd, every month...

 

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