Egyptian Prediction ???

[billt]

I'm sorry, but I can see where this is all headed. Enough so that I'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction. You guys chime in with your opinions, and we'll see how this all plays out.

My prediction is very pessimistic. I think the "Muslim Brotherhood" is already well on their way to taking over the government there. It's only a matter of time. These people are as ruthless of a bunch as anyone could imagine. Unlike the way the liberal media plays these people up to be, "just a swell bunch of guys wanting their religious freedom". They are bloodthirsty, and they HATE Christians.

We and Israel are going to wind up with yet another enemy in the Middle East who hates our guts, and wants nothing more than to see us annihilated. The libtards will play this down all the way. Hussein will do as he always does, NOTHING. He'll "go with the flow", which translated means he'll risk nothing and let us wind up in a far worse place than we were before they started chomping on Mubarak's ass. Either way were screwed. I hope I'm wrong, but based on the fact that each day Hussein's Presidency gets a little bit worse, all of this stands to reason. Plus the fact Hussein is pro muslim, regardless of what the press, and media in general report him to be.   Bill T.

[tombogan03884]

jimmy carter V2.0

[crusader rabbit]

Bill, you may be being too optimistic.  The Saudis have advised Odamna not to do anything to hasten Mubarak's departure.  The king of Saudi Arabia is a fairly close personal friend to good old Hosni, and the king has offered to replace any American foreign aid that may be taken away.  That amounts to $1.6 billion/year, or as they say in Saudi Arabia, chump change.  They know he's on his way out, but they don't want him to hurry.  (That may be the greatest wisdom in this whole power play.)

The Muslim Brotherhood has stated that they do not support the establishment of a religious government, or theocracy in Egypt.  But three important things need to be noted here: 1, according to the Q'ran it is perfectly alright to lie to infidels to advance the faith; 2, the MB has done everything in their power for years to undermine any democratic advances made by the Mubarak government; and 3, they are the extremists who recently bombed a Coptic Christian church, and who have historically beaten and killed Coptics whenever they get the chance. This is not the moderate group portrayed in the press.

Additionally, since Tunisia was able to overthrow their government, Jordan has faced similar problems, as have Algeria and even Saudi Arabia.  When Egypt and Mubarak's government fall to this crop of demonstrators, that will add impetus to surrounding nations to toss off their harnesses.  That will result in the kind of chaos we saw so many years ago in Iran when the Shaw was deposed.  It also resulted in the Ayotollah taking charge--and we all know how well that worked out.

So, what I see is this...  Egypt falls and establishes a theocratic government.  Subsequently, Tunesia, Algeria, Libya, Saudi, Syria, Jordan and the Sudan become theocracies (no particular order there, but the speed of change will increase as each nation falls, and I expect it to be complete before the end of 2012).  At that point, Israel will be the sole friendly in the entire Mid-East.

Now, without getting all spooky religious, this situation looks suspiciously like what the Book of Revelation talks about:  you know, where the lion of Judea and eagle unite to fight the bear in the final battle.

At the very least, we and our Israeli friends are in for a very rough time.  And the current resident of the WH is encouraging the players. 

Keep supplies on hand and your powder dry.  Tough times are coming.

[tt11758]

Sadly, we do not learn the lessons of history.  And this time, it's not even ANCIENT history that should have taught us something.  THis entire debacle in Egypt is unfolding just like 1970's Iran.  Anybody else remember THAT fiasco?

[Ichiban]

Carter 2.0 = Iran 2.0.

We had better take the foreign aid that we are giving Egypt and give it to Israel so they can buy more weapons from us - they are going to need them.
 

[Sponsor]

[r_w]

Revelation coming true in 2012   

Yeah, it is possible.  Actually not the worst case scenerio. 

[tombogan03884]

Bill, you may be being too optimistic.  The Saudis have advised Odamna not to do anything to hasten Mubarak's departure.  The king of Saudi Arabia is a fairly close personal friend to good old Hosni, and the king has offered to replace any American foreign aid that may be taken away.  That amounts to $1.6 billion/year, or as they say in Saudi Arabia, chump change.  They know he's on his way out, but they don't want him to hurry.  (That may be the greatest wisdom in this whole power play.)

The Muslim Brotherhood has stated that they do not support the establishment of a religious government, or theocracy in Egypt.  But three important things need to be noted here: 1, according to the Q'ran it is perfectly alright to lie to infidels to advance the faith; 2, the MB has done everything in their power for years to undermine any democratic advances made by the Mubarak government; and 3, they are the extremists who recently bombed a Coptic Christian church, and who have historically beaten and killed Coptics whenever they get the chance. This is not the moderate group portrayed in the press.

Additionally, since Tunisia was able to overthrow their government, Jordan has faced similar problems, as have Algeria and even Saudi Arabia.  When Egypt and Mubarak's government fall to this crop of demonstrators, that will add impetus to surrounding nations to toss off their harnesses.  That will result in the kind of chaos we saw so many years ago in Iran when the Shaw was deposed.  It also resulted in the Ayotollah taking charge--and we all know how well that worked out.

So, what I see is this...  Egypt falls and establishes a theocratic government.  Subsequently, Tunesia, Algeria, Libya, Saudi, Syria, Jordan and the Sudan become theocracies (no particular order there, but the speed of change will increase as each nation falls, and I expect it to be complete before the end of 2012).  At that point, Israel will be the sole friendly in the entire Mid-East.

Now, without getting all spooky religious, this situation looks suspiciously like what the Book of Revelation talks about:  you know, where the lion of Judea and eagle unite to fight the bear in the final battle.

At the very least, we and our Israeli friends are in for a very rough time.  And the current resident of the WH is encouraging the players.  

Keep supplies on hand and your powder dry.  Tough times are coming.

We are getting into "nitpicking " details here that SHOULD be being discussed in Foggy Bottom, but here goes.
While I agree that the MB are bad guys, and bad for both Israel, and us, I disagree with the prediction of theocracy.
The purpose of the Muslim Brotherhood has never in 80+ years been "Islamist", but instead, the advancement of secular, corrupt, dictatorship. Originally they were formed as the muscle of the "Grand Mufti of Jerusalem" in his struggle for power after the collapse of the Ottoman empire. While he cloaked his motives by using the MB to attack Jews, and instigate  anti Zionist riots, they were more handy for terrorizing fellow Arab leaders. It was the MB that assassinated Abdullah I, the first King of Jordan.
So if they do come out on top it is more likely we will see an anti western Cleptocracy like Saddam's Iraq, or Nasser's Egypt than the type of Islamist fanatics that gained power in Iran.
Their attacks on Copt's and tourists are more a form of smokescreen, hiding their agenda of overthrowing the current Govt to get their own snouts in the trough rather than any set ideological principles. If the Coptic Christians had any power to advance the MB's aim of getting their fingers into the till there would not be any attacks on them, but since they get their asses handed to them every time they go up against Israel they need a relatively powerless scape goat and the Coptic Christians provide one.

[JC5123]

I hate to agree with Bill on this one, just because I don't want to see it happen, but cannot bury my head in the sand. I think that you are absolutely right. What I fear is that if this unfolds quickly, with BHO still in office, Israel will have to stand alone. Fortunately they still have the testicular fortitude to do what is necessary. Hopefully we can get our disastrous regime voted out before this all comes to pass. It would be comforting to have a president with a spine again. Until then Crusader is right. It's up to us to do what we can to be ready to ensure that when sh!t goes down, our nation will survive.  

[tombogan03884]

It will most likely resolve itself well before the end of the month. However, Israel will not have to stand alone. Jordan may or may not be able to openly support them, most likely not, but behind the scenes they will work like crazy to oppose the MB. They have just as much reason, if not more, to hate the MB than Israel does.

[r_w]

I can also see a possible war on the Malabar Front in '12, with the current POTUS calling a state of emergency and suspending elections...

That would be worst-case in my mind.