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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 07:16:42 PM »
With no real leader to take over, I see either the military filling in the void, or a civil war leading to egypt being divided into territorial nation states.

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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 08:08:43 PM »
They're predicting a blood bath tomorrow over there. This will get a whole lot more ugly before it gets any better, if it ever does.  Bill T.

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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 08:48:42 PM »
I'm headed for the Suez canal at this moment. I'll let you guys know if I see anything of interest. we are carrying a security team this time, so we should be ok. but then, last time Egypt went ape shit, they sank a bunch of ships in the canal to stop traffic. stay safe everyone....  ;D
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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 09:11:21 PM »
With no real leader to take over, I see either the military filling in the void, or a civil war leading to egypt being divided into territorial nation states.

You need to pay attention to both the news, and history.
Mubarak has already said he will transfer power to the VP, (newly appointed) The Army has stated that their responsibility is to the survival of the Nation.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/10/egypt-unrest-mubarak-may-address-nation-party-chief-says/


Egypt will not break up, they have been a unified society for several thousand years. That will not change overnight , especially when none of the issues involved vary from region to region.  ::)


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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2011, 08:32:27 PM »
All the more reason to NEVER give up any fight for OUR Right To Bear Arms. The Brits scoffed at farmers and merchants, in the New World, that took up arms against the Mighty Empire.

The future generations around the World never forgot.  The Japanese remembered that an invasion of mainland America would NEVER work because of an armed (mostly) citizenry.

The Muslims that wish us harm have to know this. AND THAT'S GOOD. Including the Marxist, Code Pink, Van Jones, radical Leftists that are also calling for "revolution"....

Be careful what you wish for.

We're NOT disarmed like the rest of the world.

Grampa's rule number 36:

"Never poke a Wolverine with a stick, unless you want your balls ripped off."

Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2011, 09:28:58 PM »
twyacht:

They learned, that is why they are rotting us from the inside out   :'(
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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2011, 08:39:39 AM »
They are all just following their plan.  The call for sharia law world wide, no matter how long it takes.  Iran was a test to see if it could work.  The conditions weren't right in the rest of the Middle East until now.  It could all go that way pretty easily.  Get the younger generation pissed off enough to do the work then have the government overthrown.  Once that's complete put someone in power that appeases the masses just enough to completely ursurp power.  On to the next country.  Europe will be next since they've already started.  Look at France last year with the retirement issue.  Foment "revolution" however you can. 

Israel will go pre-emptive and BHO will hesitate and sell them out.  China will see that we won't do anything and take Taiwan.  NK goes South.  Nothing bad ;D
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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2011, 09:50:50 AM »
You need to pay attention to both the news, and history.
Mubarak has already said he will transfer power to the VP, (newly appointed) The Army has stated that their responsibility is to the survival of the Nation.

I've been watching this on TV and reading about it on the net for many hours so I think I have a firm grasp of what's going on here.

It lloks like the different news sources are proving my thought correct.

The Korean Herald Analys states it was a military coup after Mubarak's "I ain't goin'." speech.
http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110212000017

You say the newly installed VP is in charge.  I don't think so.  Omar Suleiman seems to be very quiet right now while the PM is pulling the strings.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207903

Do the Egyptians trust the PM?  No.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/11/egypt.tantawi.profile/index.html?hpt=T1

Is there concern that the Muslim Brotherhood will come in and take over?  Yes.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/02/11/egypts-mubarak-whats/

And if you look, you will see that 35% of Fox readers actually agree with the veiwpoint of the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12438007

History has show us that once a powerful person in charge leaves abruptly, there is a void that must quickly be filled by another powerful leader.

The reports have shown that during the protests, No leader has emerged from the people to lead them.  It is also stated in the reports listed that the Egyptiansd do not trust the PM and thus leaves roomn for another round of protests.

The Muslim Brotherhood has been ousted for decades now and is looking to get back in power of some form, and we all know that Iran would love to put in a puppet group like Hezbola to squeeze Israel from both sides.

Our own history has shown that after a major event like this, corruption runs rampant.  (Just look at what happened after our civil war)

If these different groups get  power in different areas without being controled by a strong leader chosen by the people, the country will shatter.  It is as simple as seeing one group get something the others don't.

If the leader is weak or doesn't have the funds needed, then small tribes, like those in Packistan, will only give lip service to the leader while doing whatever their political/religious agenda calls for.

This situation demands more observation to see what really happens.  I suggest to keep up on the news and never assume anything.


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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2011, 09:31:11 PM »
So, at the moment it appears that the Egyptian military is fully in charge.  No big surprise there.  Actually could be a very good thing if they hold to their promise to convert to civilian rule.  It won't be done by September, but everything should be in place for a peaceful transition within the next 12 months.

Meanwhile, Algeria is facing riots in the streets. 

Saudi has just witnessed the formation of its first ever political party. 

Yemin is seeing riots and mobs of protestors.

Syria is making concessions like they were running a tobacco auction.

And Jordan is facing all kinds of difficulties.  I predict the government will fall within the next 90-120 days.

The dominos will fall with increasing speed and the Muslim Brotherhood will fight to establish a caliphate from the Middle-East to Indonesia. 

The UGLY has just begun.
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Re: Egyptian Prediction ???
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2011, 10:00:20 PM »
So, at the moment it appears that the Egyptian military is fully in charge.  No big surprise there.  Actually could be a very good thing if they hold to their promise to convert to civilian rule.  It won't be done by September, but everything should be in place for a peaceful transition within the next 12 months.

Meanwhile, Algeria is facing riots in the streets. 

Saudi has just witnessed the formation of its first ever political party. 

Yemin is seeing riots and mobs of protestors.

Syria is making concessions like they were running a tobacco auction.

And Jordan is facing all kinds of difficulties.  I predict the government will fall within the next 90-120 days.

The dominos will fall with increasing speed and the Muslim Brotherhood will fight to establish a caliphate from the Middle-East to Indonesia. 

The UGLY has just begun.
This might not be a bad thing Rabbit. I feel bad for Jordan, it has been an ally, gotten the dirty end of the stick in the Israeli-Palestininan conflict and its king is a US citizen (his mother was American).  Still, having Islamacists take control of the middle east is not necessarily a bad thing. I am on record here as not being W's number one fan. Here is my foremost reason. After 9/11 he launched a "war on terrorism". WTF is that? Its like the Brits launching a "war on airplanes" during the Blitz. We are not at war with terrorism. We are at war with fundamentalist Islam. Lets just come out and say it. The middle east going over to the Muslim Brotherhood gives us a reason to stop tiptoeing politely aroun the elephant in the room and will force Europe to rediscover its balls. They are already gettinfg tired of unassimilated muslim "refugeees". This might be the kick start required to get the west to stop the PC self flagellation and regrow a spine. The muslims are unapologetic about what they believe, and good for them. I respect honesty and conviction. I just think its time we started doing the same and may the best man win. This might be wishfull thinking, but here's hoping that if the battle lines are clealy drawn that the old alliances will re form, and do so with conviction..
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