CCW helps you get through security!

[MikeBjerum]

catalytic converter

Can honestly say Nope, at least not without putting one back on.

[TAB]

Its just one of many very common felonys that most "car guys" do at some point.  The chances of you being cuaght with it are extremly low, but it is a federal felony.

[MikeBjerum]

Its just one of many very common felonys that most "car guys" do at some point.  The chances of you being cuaght with it are extremly low, but it is a federal felony.

You get caught with it very easily, but they usually chose to not push it.  However it is like the IRS codes used to catch Al Capone.  It was these car emission laws that brought Boyd Coddington down - or would have brought him down if he hadn't died first 

[JC5123]

Tab you are seriously reaching on this one. Have most of us here broken the law and not even known it? Probably. Would they be cases that a FEDERAL prosecutor would take the time to file charges? Highly doubtful. You are talking a bout laws written 80 years as a knee jerk reaction to an immediate problem. They are irrelevant now and I would bet that most prosecutors don't even know what they are.

I'm with 2How on this. If you have gone through the hoops and gotten your CCW, that should be your security check. Building, AIRPORTS, and anywhere else. You have already been more thoroughly screened than the other sheep going through the metal detector.

And YES I think you should be able to carry on a plane. Get rid of the stupid air marshals, and the TSA. (How much would THAT cut from the budget? ) And let's get back to traveling like responsible CITIZENS instead of being herded like little kids in day care!

I am surprised that you are so afraid of someone with a CCW. Most are better trained and more responsible with a weapon than the cops.

[PegLeg45]

just becuase some one has a CCW, does not mean they are good person.


there should be no diffrence in treatment between ccw holders and nonccw holders.

Bravo, TAB......you just (in one simple statement) solidified the argument that myself and many on here have been saying all along about "bearing arms".
Roll back the laws 200 years and let everyone be on equal footing and let the chips fall where they may. If you can legally buy a gun, you can legally carry a gun...anywhere.... no need for red tape and permits.


JC covered the rest of your hollow argument on the felonies.

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[tombogan03884]

just becuase some one has a CCW, does not mean they are good person.


As I've said many, many times.  there is not a member here that has not commited a felony at some point in thier life.  We have just never been cuaght.  There are lots of felonys out there.  Every taken a cat off a car or truck? felony.  put some thing on a rail road track or walked down a railroad track? felony.  In many states having a fire work is a felony( az for example)  there is one southern state where oral sex with some one other then your wife/husband is a felony.  the list goes on and on and on.

The diffrence between a felon and the rest of us is they got cuaght, its really that simple.


there should be no diffrence in treatment between ccw holders and nonccw holders.

TAB, That is an idiotic statement that ignores the fact that CCW holders have already gone through at least one back ground check for the permit and most likely another for the hand gun.
You may be a felonious scum bag, I am a double checked Federally approved law abiding citizen.           

[JC5123]

TAB, That is an idiotic statement that ignores the fact that CCW holders have already gone through at least one back ground check for the permit and most likely another for the hand gun.
You may be a felonious scum bag, I am a double checked Federally approved law abiding citizen.           

If you're going that route, hell the ATF, and FBI have given me the probe 5 times.

Once for CCW, twice for class three tax stamps, and twice for security clearance. And that's not counting the background checks I have gone through when I was a carpenter working in federal buildings.

You are also forgetting that a CCW removes the need for a NICS phone call, because the background check for CCW is already far more extensive.

[TAB]

If you're going that route, hell the ATF, and FBI have given me the probe 5 times.

Once for CCW, twice for class three tax stamps, and twice for security clearance. And that's not counting the background checks I have gone through when I was a carpenter working in federal buildings.

You are also forgetting that a CCW removes the need for a NICS phone call, because the background check for CCW is already far more extensive.

I think thats BS as well.  you can't us a NICS from 2 years ago, why should you be able to use a background check for CCW from 2 years ago?

[PegLeg45]

TAB, That is an idiotic statement that ignores the fact that CCW holders have already gone through at least one back ground check for the permit and most likely another for the hand gun.
You may be a felonious scum bag, I am a double checked Federally approved law abiding citizen.          

If you're going that route, hell the ATF, and FBI have given me the probe 5 times.

Once for CCW, twice for class three tax stamps, and twice for security clearance. And that's not counting the background checks I have gone through when I was a carpenter working in federal buildings.

You are also forgetting that a CCW removes the need for a NICS phone call, because the background check for CCW is already far more extensive.

+1 Tom and JC.

Although based on the 2nd A we shouldn't need permits, since we do have the process in place, CCW holders should reap the benefits of submitting themselves to the scrutiny of the state/federal background check procedure.

[MikeBjerum]

I think thats BS as well.  you can't us a NICS from 2 years ago, why should you be able to use a background check for CCW from 2 years ago?

Here is where TAB shows that he spends his life jumping from our our bandwagon to the anti's bandwagon.  Unless I read this wrong, Tab is stating that we need stronger background checks   

One foot in the grave, one on a banana peel, and the only thing holding us up is the Second Amendment and someone has lit that on fire