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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 12:14:06 PM »
He shouldn't have to, as his ass should be fired and he won't be doing any investigations at all.
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Wouldn't something like this fall under criminal negligence? Seems to me that failure to do anything about this when it appears all the signs were there would justify charging him.
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 12:16:25 PM »
Because being a cop and evaluating whether someone is a fit parent are interchangable jobs? "Officer Smith go evaluate the Jones home, see whether the family is salvageable". Suggest that to your local SO and being Tazed will be the least of your worries. You'll be used as the new chew toy for their canine unit. "Gee Deputy Watson, you mean he gets to play with the police dogs all day? How did he get that job"? "Well, little Jimmimy, Mr. Bogan said we should handle a whole lot more domestic cases, so we found a new job for him. He likes it here though. See how he gets to run and act all silly when we let two dogs out to play? That's a happy man.", ;D
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The biggest problem with social workers is that they have no law enforcement authority. Whenever they see something they have to get the police involved anyway. So why not just cut out the middle man and set up child protective services as a division within the police department?
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 12:16:57 PM »
Wouldn't something like this fall under criminal negligence? Seems to me that failure to do anything about this when it appears all the signs were there would justify charging him.
Soveriegn immunity. Remember, the cops can't be compelled to help you. If they run or just don't show up, the most you can do is fire them. You can't sue them either. >:(
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 12:36:58 PM »
Soveriegn immunity. Remember, the cops can't be compelled to help you. If they run or just don't show up, the most you can do is fire them. You can't sue them either. >:(
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But we are not talking about a cop in this case, we are talking about a social worker. Do you not even remember your own posts? And what makes you think you can't sue the cops? They get sued all the time. For everything from gross negligence, and abuse to destruction of property. Most of these never make it to a courtroom because it is less expensive for the municipalities to settle out of court, or because the plaintiff is a hack and lacks the evidence to present a case.

Yes there are some limitations to suing police, but you can still sue. If you couldn't then cops could run roughshot over everyone with no repercussions.
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 12:58:25 PM »
But we are not talking about a cop in this case, we are talking about a social worker. Do you not even remember your own posts? And what makes you think you can't sue the cops? They get sued all the time. For everything from gross negligence, and abuse to destruction of property. Most of these never make it to a courtroom because it is less expensive for the municipalities to settle out of court, or because the plaintiff is a hack and lacks the evidence to present a case.

Yes there are some limitations to suing police, but you can still sue. If you couldn't then cops could run roughshot over everyone with no repercussions.
There is no distinction between governmental workers here, cops or the DMV. You can sue if they break the law or written policy. If however, they just do a piss poor job, they (meaning the state) are covered. Essentially, brutality, corruption, failing to follow SOP is grounds for a suit, though the latter is iffy. If on the other hand, the guy just acted like a total Gomer, checked the boxes and moved on, there isn't much you can do. In the first case I mentioned where the case worker falsified reports, that's criminal negligence and fraud, lawsuits are fine. Here, where the guy showed up at the door and just took the woman's word that the kids were asleep? I hope he can be charged and sued, but odds are he, and worst of all his department, can't be. Sometimes 8 figure jury verdicts are a good thing. They tend to motivate people. Forcing FL. to pay out in this case, even though it will come out of my wallet, would be a good thing if it made the Governor clean house to prevent a reccurence. The squeky wheel gets the grease. This one should squeak very loudly indeed.
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 02:50:31 PM »
I'm not talking about suing the police anyway. Your original post was that the guy should be fired. I agree, I take it a step further that the District Attorney should prosecute the negligent little turd.
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Re: Horrific Abuse case
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 03:17:42 PM »
I'm not talking about suing the police anyway. Your original post was that the guy should be fired. I agree, I take it a step further that the District Attorney should prosecute the negligent little turd.
Well, someone does need to sue, if they can, on that little boy's behalf. He's going to need a lifetime's worth of care if what we learned about the extent of his burns are accurate, and that's saying nothing about therapy for seeing his twin murdered. That isn't something that goes away,
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