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BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« on: February 18, 2011, 03:58:28 PM »
Would this be considered having a fence pole stuck up your a$$?

"In his press conference Tuesday, Obama was called on to defend his positions – or lack thereof – on entitlement spending and the ongoing Middle Eastern uprising. In each case, the question was why the president hasn’t been clearer about his own vision.

Obama’s response was that by withholding his own recommendations, he is actually able to draw out a better result from others who must work to solve problems on their own – that choosing not to lead is the kind of leadership that these situations demand.

“History will end up recording that on every juncture, we were on the right side of history,” Obama said of Egypt. “What we didn't do is pretend we can predict the outcome, because we can't.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/15/murky-methods-key-obama-egypt-debt-crisis/#ixzz1ELlX7Uq6
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 04:12:21 PM »
Actually, he's dead right on Egypt. We didn't know what the outcome was going to be. Had we backed Mubarack and he lost, it would have been like Iran in 1979 when we were associated with the Shah after he went down. Had we sided with the demonstrators and they lost, it would have been like Cheney coming out in favor of the anti-Chaez coup before we knew whether it had suceeded. It pissed everyone of our Latin American allies off and made us look like idiots. Likewise, the regimes charges that the protestors were all funded by foriegn interests would have gained traction. Diplomacy is best conducted behind closed doors, and sometimes saying nothing of substance is the best course of action. This isn't a defense of BO per say, I just really can't see any other viable approach we could have taken.
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 04:25:10 PM »
he is actually able to draw out a better result from others who must work to solve problems on their own – that choosing not to lead is the kind of leadership that these situations demand.


This is the part that really chaps my butt. This is the complete opposite of leadership. True that we cannot predict outcomes, but this is the spinelessness that the American people are sick of from our politicians. This is the same type of "leadership" that caused the debacle with the gulf oil spill last year.

I would hate to be in a burning building with our dear leader. You'd get your a$$ baked while he commissioned a committee to help him decide which exit to use!  >:(
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 05:10:38 PM »
FQ - you forget that at the beginning of this he told the Egyptians to continue on their protests for change.  He new well that this would result in the overthrow of Mubarack.  And you will also recall that calls were made by Pres. BHO's "people" telling Mubarack to step down.  And then there was that wonderful night with the White House announced that Mubarack's press conference was to be to announce his resignation ... Oooooops  :-[
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 05:28:40 PM »
Decision by polling data IS NOT LEADERSHIP!!!!

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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 06:33:15 PM »
Actually, he's dead right on Egypt. We didn't know what the outcome was going to be. Had we backed Mubarack and he lost, it would have been like Iran in 1979 when we were associated with the Shah after he went down. Had we sided with the demonstrators and they lost, it would have been like Cheney coming out in favor of the anti-Chaez coup before we knew whether it had suceeded. It pissed everyone of our Latin American allies off and made us look like idiots. Likewise, the regimes charges that the protestors were all funded by foriegn interests would have gained traction. Diplomacy is best conducted behind closed doors, and sometimes saying nothing of substance is the best course of action. This isn't a defense of BO per say, I just really can't see any other viable approach we could have taken.
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Saying nothing of substance is a cowards approach to diplomacy. Here is how a REAL leader deals with diplomacy.


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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 06:58:27 PM »
Let's compare this "leader" of ours to the young man from Iowa who was favored to win the 112# class at State Wrestling, but forfeited his opening match, assuring no higher than third place, because he was drawn against a female wrestler.  His belief is that it is wrong for him to disrespect females by challenging them in combative sport.  He also does not believe that it is proper for males and females to have that type of contact outside of marriage.

ESPN's Rick Reilly was in DesMoines and said I have seen this female wrestling thing before, and it is no big deal, but it is hard to understand why a kid would give up his dream for some kind of religious reason.

What good is your Faith, your beliefs or your convictions if you are not willing to give up something of meaning or take a risk over them?  Come on Mr. President - Answer that one for me!
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 07:00:02 PM »
We don't have "leadership" in Washington, we have "management."  Big difference.

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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 07:02:05 PM »
We don't have "leadership" in Washington, we have "management."  Big difference.

We don't even have management.  Management means that you are making decisions based on what is best for the organization.
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Re: BHO's waffling explained. WTF?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM »
We don't have "leadership" in Washington, we have "management."  Big difference.

They're lawyers for the most part.  Most couldn't manage a liquor store..

 

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