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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 07:58:26 PM »
Janet "From another planet" Napolitano, and the ATF Director, are culpable for the death of the Border Agent. During the hearing, this week, DHS Sec. just stated "we're investigating"....

OUR GOV'T LET THESE GUNS GET TO MEXICO,.....NOT A GUN DEALER!!!!!!

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2011, 05:51:08 AM »
Janet "From another planet" Napolitano, and the ATF Director, are culpable for the death of the Border Agent. During the hearing, this week, DHS Sec. just stated "we're investigating"....

OUR GOV'T LET THESE GUNS GET TO MEXICO,.....NOT A GUN DEALER!!!!!!



Napolitano wouldn't know how to conduct a proper investigation if it landed in her lap.

When speaking with her you need to use really small words and keep repeating the points you want to make. She has the attention span of a gnat, along with the common sense of an imbecile.

That's just one person's opinion that has talked to her before.

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2011, 06:24:32 AM »
Napolitano wouldn't know how to conduct a proper investigation if it landed in her lap.

When speaking with her you need to use really small words and keep repeating the points you want to make. She has the attention span of a gnat, along with the common sense of an imbecile.

That's just one person's opinion that has talked to her before.

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There was a celebration in much of Arizona when we got rid of her in favor of Jan Brewer. Brewer is no angel, but she's doing a far better job here than "the dyke" could have on her best day. Gone are all of the speeding cameras Napolitano had installed all over the freeways here. And many of the red light cameras have been dismantled as well. Brewer signed S.B. 1070 which pissed of the libtards, and also signed into law Concealed Carry without requiring a permit. She won reelection easily over that libtard ass hat Terry Goddard, and I suspect she'll keep on fighting the good fight. If we would have had Napolitano all of this time, we'd be in far worse shape. She was totally worthless much to the point of being destructive.  Bill T.

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2011, 11:22:39 AM »
Just sent this e mail to my Dem Senator who is on the Foreign Relations Committee.

Since the murder of a US Border Patrol agent directly effects US/Mexican relations, your silence on BATFE's "Operation Gunrunner" can only be construed as supporting the arming of Mexican drug cartels by a rogue Govt. agency which has a history of murdering US citizens.
Demand answers from BATFE !
After all, "It's for the children.

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2011, 04:51:10 PM »
Micheal Bane was saying in todays DRTV video on this that Senator Charles Grassley was from Idaho.  No,Mike . He is across the Missouri river from me in Iowa.   Mike,you should read more on our legislatures on where they are from. 

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2011, 05:17:18 PM »
Micheal Bane was saying in todays DRTV video on this that Senator Charles Grassley was from Idaho.  No,Mike . He is across the Missouri river from me in Iowa.   Mike,you should read more on our legislatures on where they are from. 

Idaho...Iowa...  It's all "fly over" country so it really doesn't matter.   ::)


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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 12:32:38 AM »
There was a celebration in much of Arizona when we got rid of her in favor of Jan Brewer.

My celebration hasn't stopped yet!  ;D ;D
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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2011, 10:45:24 AM »
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/03/17/will-operation-gun-walker-bring-down-eric-holder-or-barack-obama/

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As the sun is rising this morning, it appears more and more that the Obama Administration committed an actual, factual act of war against Mexico through sheer incompetence that has left at least one American border patrol agent murdered.

What if I told you that the Obama Administration’s Justice Department authorized the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (the “ATF”) to rig gun background checks so gun runners could “walk” guns into Mexico after clearing an instant background check at various gun stores in the U.S.?

What if I told you that the Department of Justice and ATF did this to try to build a picture of Mexican Drug Cartels so the cartels could be taken out?

What if I told you that the ATF’s authorization of this operation, called by them “Fast and Furious”, corresponded to an increase in gun violence by drug cartels in Mexico?

What if I told you the Obama Administration never told the Mexican Government — making this a clear act of war under any host of international precedents?

What if I told you that at least one, and maybe more, American border patrol agents were murdered by guns passed over the border with the permission of the ATF?

And what if I told you that the Department of Justice and ATF decided to use the gun running they authorized, enabled, and oversaw as evidence in the Obama Administration’s fight to crack down on gun sales in the United States?

You’d think I was crazy, wouldn’t you? You’d think I had Obama Derangement Syndrome, wouldn’t you?

I’ll be honest. Had this come from any one of a million different right wing websites, I would be deeply suspicious that there were key details missing in order to paint a picture of an out of control Obama Administration and Eric Holder.

What if I told you the source of this fantastical story is the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric?

The facts here fit a pattern in Obama’s Department of Justice. Remember the Somali teen who the FBI gave pretend explosives to so the kid could take out a bunch of people in Oregon — or at least plot to? Only now, instead of imaginary bombs, the Department of Justice is authorizing real weapons that are being used to murder actual Americans.


    Surveillance video obtained by CBS News shows suspected drug cartel suppliers carrying boxes of weapons to their cars at a Phoenix gun shop. The long boxes shown in the video being loaded in were AK-47-type assault rifles.

    So it turns out ATF not only allowed it - they videotaped it.

    Documents show the inevitable result: The guns that ATF let go began showing up at crime scenes in Mexico. And as ATF stood by watching thousands of weapons hit the streets… the Fast and Furious group supervisor noted the escalating Mexican violence.

    One e-mail noted, “958 killed in March 2010 … most violent month since 2005.” The same e-mail notes: “Our subjects purchased 359 firearms during March alone,” including “numerous Barrett .50 caliber rifles.”

Senator Chuck Grassley “began investigating after his office spoke to Dodson and a dozen other ATF sources — all telling the same story.”

Now Congressman Darrell Issa is promising a congressional investigation. on the Rodger Hedgecock Show last night, Congressman Issa told Roger he is going to make sure there is a full inquiry into what happened.

The question, of course, to use the cliché, is what did Eric Holder and Barack Obama know and when did they know it.

One final note on this — CBS News itself does not get into the speculation that the Justice Department will be using this information to go after gun shops in this country. That’s just what ATF agents are whispering to Congress directly.

Had it not been CBS News, I’d say this was crazy talk. But they have the emails, videos, and actual ATF agents all saying the same thing.

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2011, 02:59:09 PM »


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ATF gunwalking scandal: Second agent speaks out

ATF allegedly encouraged U.S. gun sales to Mexican drug traffickers -- Now there's evidence other agencies knew about program

(CBS News)

WASHINGTON - South of El Paso, Texas, on Mexico's side of the border, lies Juarez - the most dangerous city in the world. CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reports ATF Special Agent Rene Jaquez has been stationed there for the past year, trying to keep U.S. guns from being trafficked into Mexico.

"That's what we do as an agency," Jaquez said. "ATF's primary mission is to make sure that we curtail gun trafficking."

That's why Jaquez tells CBS News he was so alarmed to hear his own agency may have done the opposite: encouraged U.S. gun dealers to sell to suspected traffickers for Mexico's drug cartels. Apparently, ATF hoped that letting weapons "walk" onto the street - to see where they'd end up - would help them take down a cartel.

Yet ATF agents told us they were ordered to let thousands of weapons walk. Two of them, assault rifles, were later found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in Arizona last December. Another gunrunning suspect under ATF surveillance was linked to the shooting of Customs Agent Jaime Zapata. And sources say many more "walked" weapons turned up at Mexican crime scenes.

More at link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/21/eveningnews/main20045609.shtml

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Re: CBS NEWS UNCOVERS GUNRUNNING SCANDAL WITHIN THE ATF
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2011, 03:23:23 PM »
I'll admit to not being as on top of this as I should be. With that said do any of you guys think the ATF will end up in the $h!tter over this? Or do you think it will all blow over like Waco and Ruby Ridge?  Bill T.

 

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