tom wrote:
This was NY, Honest people in NY can't carry guns.
I have to disagree. There are permits issued in NY. A bunch of hoops to jump through yes, but they can be obtained.
Even if he had a CCW it doesn't make him a cop, since he was in no danger, he was not justified in shooting, since the article says "Detectives questioned the woman, who is the mother of Williams' 3-year-old son, at the 40th Precinct stationhouse." and makes no mention of hospital she apparently was also not "in imminent danger" so the defense of others is also not a valid defense for this gang banger to butt in and murder the guy.
I can only answer in the context of AZ laws, not being versed in NY law.
That said, protection of a 3rd party is entirely justifiable, and we in AZ have no "duty to warn."
The disparity of force between a woman and a man beating on her is obvious and places her in a definite catagory of imminent danger, just like getting attacked by 2 or more asshats would place us in the same boat.
No mention of a hospital could mean the assault was stopped in time for her not to need a hospital - another few seconds and it could have been much different. A head bounced off a sidewalk can be fatal
For all you people know the bitch may have needed a tune up.
I have been divorced 3 times. None of which ended up with me "giving the bitch a tune up", not that the thought didn't cross my mind.
Besides the fact I wasn't raised that way, you don't get to own a gun if you do. (Lautenberg)
There is no mention of any gangbanger being involved. Living in a crap area doesn't make you automatically a gangbanger.
I hope the guy is able to keep his mouth shut - by leaving, the legal system will crucify him.