GAS PRICES!

[JC5123]

We have a locally-owned gas station in town with non-ethanol gasoline that sells for the same price (or usually within a couple of cents per gallon) as the bigger operations (which nearly all run at least 10% ethanol). I get 2-4 mpg better mileage on the non-ethanol gas. A lot of folks think they are saving by running ethanol or E-85 because it runs 20-30 cents cheaper per gallon. But what they don't realize is that the ethanol burns at a higher rate per mile....so overall mileage suffers....usually to the point of being a wash money-wise.

Not to mention destroying your new aluminum block engine faster due to the higher temperatures. 

[ratcatcher55]

Hey Ratcatcher it just cost me $98.00 to fill up my work truck. My Chevy 2500 6.0L burps after a fill up. Not so bad with my 1500 though it only has 4.3L.

Thanks. I'll let you know what the damages are.

[PegLeg45]

Not to mention destroying your new aluminum block engine faster due to the higher temperatures.  

Yes, the heat issue is an ongoing debate amongst the ethanol crowd. Funny thing is, that alcohol-based fuel actually runs cooler in combustion engines, if the engine is set up to run alcohol. That is why many drag racing cars don't have radiators.
The problems with high heat in street cars running E-85 and such fuels seems to center around combustion/compression ratios and timing curves. Even though ethanol-based fuel has a higher octane rating than gas (97-100), it has a very different flash-point and burn rate, and needs more compression to take full advantage of it's potential. Many think this is where the higher heat issues come into play. It takes about 20% more Ethanol to equal the energy of gasoline.....which is also why fuel pumps and lines on many drag cars are high-flow and large (and the carbs are jetted differently). Basically, it takes more of it and it is harder to light...but once it is lit, it burns longer (instead of hotter) in the combustion chamber...thus potentially building more heat in street cars.

[philw]

regular unleaded here is $1.49 per litre the other day
so that would work out to be around $5.64 per US gallon


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/petrol-prices-to-rise-4c-a-litre/story-fn6bqphm-1226017338365

Petrol prices to rise 4c a litre


Further upward pressure on fuel prices is forecast for the immediate future. Picture: Craig Hughes Source: The Advertiser

ANOTHER round of record high oil prices threatens to push pump prices up by 4c a litre.

Adelaide unleaded prices hit a high of $1.499 a litre late on Saturday and were sitting at an average of $1.492 yesterday afternoon, the RAA website says.

But the benchmark for Australian fuel prices, Singapore Tapis Crude, moved beyond $US117 a barrel to hit $US121.70 on Friday, signalling further upward pressure on fuel prices for motorists in the week ahead.

Motor Trades Association executive director John Chapman said today's prices mirrored those nearly 30 months ago when only a collapse in global demand stopped Australian fuel prices crashing through the $1.50 barrier.

But he warned motorists could be in for more difficult time as concerns about the Middle East continued to fire up speculators and global demand continued its recovery.

"If the global economy picks up, we will have consistently high fuel prices," he said. "Up to $2 a litre, if the demand is there. If we get back to those levels with limited supply, the only safe place is our strong dollar."

CommSec economist Savanth Sebastian said pump prices would rise 4c over the next two weeks based on unrest in the Middle East.

"Given the current tensions in the Middle East, the Singapore unleaded price has surged by over $US15 a barrel in the past three weeks and is holding at 30-month highs," he said.

"Unfortunately for motorists the Australian dollar can only do so much, and as such most of the increase in the global oil price will need to filter through to domestic pump prices."

RAA senior analyst Chris West said refiner margins had been cut to zero, taking some of the sting out of the retail price, but users of diesel continued to face much higher prices.

Diesel is the mainstay of heavy transport - meaning all consumers are likely to bear the cost as higher prices are passed on to food and other goods.

Mr West said motorists were being faced with an increasingly volatile market where the gap between the high and low points of the weekly fuel cycle had increased to 16c from 14c.

"The best thing motorists can do is fill up on Friday," he said.

[billt]

regular unleaded here is $1.49 per litre the other day so that would work out to be around $5.64 per US gallon.

I'm really surprised that anti Socialist Republicans don't seize on these facts more. If the difference between the pump price of a gallon of gas here compared to Socialist Australia or Continental Europe is around $2.24 a gallon, ($5.64 - $3.40 = $2.24), it is obvious that difference is TAX since a barrel of oil, along with the cost to refine and transport it, are the same world wide.

What does that horrendous tax actually buy in those countries, that is so much better? Are the schools any better? We already know their health care sucks. Police and fire respond any faster? We know their military can't hold a candle to ours, so that no doubt costs less. Where is all of this massive tax money going?

 It's much like the state run lotteries here. They were sold to the people on the promise all of the profits would be used to fund our schools and maintain our roads and infrastructure. The kids graduating today are dumb as stumps, and the roads and bridges are all falling apart, and there isn't a dime to fix any of it. If this country went off the rails with Socialism the way Hussein would love to have it, it would simply equate to all the more money wasted. We already know that with Massachusetts state run health care, or "Romney Care" as it is known by. It's expensive as hell, it's bankrupting the state, and it sucks too boot. I can't believe anyone with a functioning brain would want such $h!t.  Bill T. 

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[billt]

And it just keeps getting better.   Bill T.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=198282

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911

[Hazcat]

Cheapest I can find today is 3.39.  Average is 3.50

[BAC]

Yesterday it was $3.49 when I took my daughter to school, and it was $3.59 when I picked her up.

Why does the price only go up by a dime, but when it comes down it goes down by 1 or 2 cents?  That was a rhetorical question, please don't answer.

[TAB]

paid 3.95 yesterday

[shooter32]

Filled up this morning $3.45 reg unleaded.