What's Up In CT? Does This High Cap Ban Stand A Chance

[twyacht]

Not only does it ban 10+ rd. mags, but ANYONE in possession of one has TO SURRENDER IT, or if caught, becomes a Class D FELON. Prison and Fines, banned from owning firearms again..


http://armedselfdefense.blogspot.com/2011/03/connecticut-bill-would-confiscate-all.html

Thursday, March 3, 2011
Connecticut Bill Would Confiscate All Magazines In The State Holding More Than 10 Rounds

There is a bill in the Connecticut legislature that would not only ban ownership and possession of firearm magazines with a capacity of over ten rounds, but it also requires confiscation of them within 90 days of the bill becoming law. There will be no grandfathering of ownership of these magazines. Possession of them after the 90 day period is a class D Felony, with prison time of one to five years, a $5,000.00 fine. In addition, the newly minted Felon loses the right of firearms and  ammunition ownership for life. We know how well the turn in ratio of "assault rifles" turn in worked when they were banned in New Jersey.

Here's the complete Bill:
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Raised Bill No. 1094
January Session, 2011   

AN ACT BANNING LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION MAGAZINES.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:
Section 1. (NEW) (Effective July 1, 2011) (a) As used in this section, "large capacity magazine" means any detachable ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition, but does not include: (1) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than ten rounds, (2) a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device, or (3) a tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
(b) Any person who possesses a large capacity magazine shall be guilty of a class D felony.
(c) Any person who (1) prior to the effective date of this section, lawfully possessed a large capacity magazine, and (2) not later than ninety days after the effective date of this section, removes such magazine from this state or surrenders such magazine to an organized local police department or the Department of Public Safety for destruction, shall not be subject to prosecution for a violation of subsection (b) of this section.
(d) The provisions of subsection (b) of this section shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity magazine by:
(1) Members or employees of organized local police departments, the Department of Public Safety, the Department of Correction or the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties;
(2) A person, corporation or other entity that manufactures large capacity magazines for persons specified in subdivision (1) of this subsection or for export in accordance with federal regulations;
(3) Any person engaged in the business of selling or transferring large capacity magazines in accordance with state and federal regulations who possesses such magazines solely for the purpose of such sale or transfer; or
(4) A gunsmith who possesses such large capacity magazine for the purpose of maintenance, repair or modification.
      
This act shall take effect as follows and shall amend the following sections:
Section 1
   
July 1, 2011
   
New section
Statement of Purpose:
To prohibit the possession of certain ammunition feeding devices that accept more than ten rounds.

[Timothy]

Anyone's guess if this will pass.  We have a new Democrap Governor and the House and Senate are loaded to the left.  We have a large contingent of gun makers here that should lobby pretty hard to keep it from passing.

NRA-ILA sent me an email about this as well so they're watching it too.

Like anywhere else, one third will support it, one third will be against it and one third won't give a shit.

[CJS3]

If it becomes illegal to own +10 cap mags (+10 does not make it "high cap" anymore than +6), would it also be illegal to make +10 cap mags? Would it also infer that a pistol designed to be +10 round capable is also illegal?

You can bet the anti's have already considered these questions, and will move over time to enforce their philosophy.

I still don't understand why a "gun maker" would maintain operations in a state unfriendly to their industry.

[Timothy]

If it becomes illegal to own +10 cap mags (+10 does not make it "high cap" anymore than +6), would it also be illegal to make +10 cap mags? Would it also infer that a pistol designed to be +10 round capable is also illegal?

You can bet the anti's have already considered these questions, and will move over time to enforce their philosophy.

I still don't understand why a "gun maker" would maintain operations in a state unfriendly to their industry.

They have that covered in the bill...

(d) The provisions of subsection (b) of this section shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity magazine by:
(1) Members or employees of organized local police departments, the Department of Public Safety, the Department of Correction or the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties;
(2) A person, corporation or other entity that manufactures large capacity magazines for persons specified in subdivision (1) of this subsection or for export in accordance with federal regulations;
(3) Any person engaged in the business of selling or transferring large capacity magazines in accordance with state and federal regulations who possesses such magazines solely for the purpose of such sale or transfer; or
(4) A gunsmith who possesses such large capacity magazine for the purpose of maintenance, repair or modification.

[Ichiban]

This is so stupid.  Lefty lunacy at its finest.

We all "know" that speed is a major factor in most fatal automobile accidents.  With that in mind, let's make it a felony for anyone to own a car that is capable of exceeding the maximum speed limit.  Think of the boost to the economy when people have to surrender their "illegal" car (without being compensated for it) and buy one that complies with the new law.

The above was meant as sarcasm/jest, but I am willing to bet that the clowns that favor the magazine ban will see it as logical.   

[Sponsor]

[CJS3]

They have that covered in the bill...

(d) The provisions of subsection (b) of this section shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity magazine by:
(1) Members or employees of organized local police departments, the Department of Public Safety, the Department of Correction or the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties;
(2) A person, corporation or other entity that manufactures large capacity magazines for persons specified in subdivision (1) of this subsection or for export in accordance with federal regulations;
(3) Any person engaged in the business of selling or transferring large capacity magazines in accordance with state and federal regulations who possesses such magazines solely for the purpose of such sale or transfer; or
(4) A gunsmith who possesses such large capacity magazine for the purpose of maintenance, repair or modification.

Actually once the law is in place, modification would be easier than the implemitation of the original law. That's what I was getting at. Sorry I didn't make it plainer. I hadn't had my 2nd cup of coffee yet.

[Timothy]

Actually once the law is in place, modification would be easier than the implemitation of the original law. That's what I was getting at. Sorry I didn't make it plainer. I hadn't had my 2nd cup of coffee yet.

I agree...

I still don't understand why a "gun maker" would maintain operations in a state unfriendly to their industry.

The more I think about it, it would stand to reason they may in fact not care!  Colt and Ruger are the only two that make black rifles and most likely, neither make magazines!  They buy them to sell with their black rifles.  Colt makes 1911's, period and Ruger makes most, if not all of their auto loaders in another state.

Marlin, Savage, H&H, Charter, US Arms et all don't make magazine fed firearms for the most part. 

The fact that you can't buy 80 percent of the magazine fed guns S&W makes as a resident of MA didn't make them close shop and leave town.

We may be phuqued regardless.

[tombogan03884]

I still don't understand why a "gun maker" would maintain operations in a state unfriendly to their industry.

I agree...

The more I think about it, it would stand to reason they may in fact not care!  Colt and Ruger are the only two that make black rifles and most likely, neither make magazines!  They buy them to sell with their black rifles.  Colt makes 1911's, period and Ruger makes most, if not all of their auto loaders in another state.

Marlin, Savage, H&H, Charter, US Arms et all don't make magazine fed firearms for the most part.  

The fact that you can't buy 80 percent of the magazine fed guns S&W makes as a resident of MA didn't make them close shop and leave town.

We may be phuqued regardless.

There is also the possibility that the expense of moving operations is prohibitively expensive.
With the exception of Ruger every single one of the companies mentioned has been in there current location for many decades, 4 out of the 5 have been there 100 years or more.
Also, as far as I know Ruger manufactures nothing in CT. it is just the location of their Corporate offices. Manufacturing is all done in NH or Az.

[twyacht]

Maybe it's time to write the gun makers to start showing a little backbone, and like Timothy stated, lobby against this.

Or like other manufacturers have done, just leave. Folks will still buy Colts, Rugers, etc,...if their made in TN, GA, Carolinas, TX,...etc,....

The tax incentive's from other NON UNION states, would also be a factor.

While in CT. in October, I could taste the rampant Liberalism, and there wasn't enough beer to get rid of it.

Good luck Timothy, if you want to sell your high cap mags to some of us, (so your not a potential felon), I'll gladly help out.

[Timothy]

Good luck Timothy, if you want to sell your high cap mags to some of us, (so your not a potential felon), I'll gladly help out.

I don't have any as of yet, only the 1911 in the stable at the moment.  It certainly will determine what I buy next though.  

Knee jerk reaction to a bad situation in AZ with the Congressman/lady/person incident.  Hopefully, it will die a quick death on the House floor.  It doesn't effect me directly as I'm not really concerned about capacity but we shouldn't compromise or give away anything at this point.

Cell phones are banned here while driving and I see people every single day talking, texting, yakking away daily.  It's stupid politics, ignorant thought and general busybody bullshit.