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Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« on: March 06, 2011, 06:10:28 PM »
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Title of the video says she shot the intruder, but the report says she shot at him and scared him off.
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 07:36:28 PM »
Richmond is the 3rd point of a triangle formed by Berkley and San Francisco, it is also the birth place of the original Black Panther Party.
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 07:48:35 PM »
I was more surprised at what the cop said about owning a gun and such.
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 08:03:43 PM »
Quote from: PegLeg45 on March 06, 2011, 07:48:35 PM
I was more surprised at what the cop said about owning a gun and such.

he is a idiot, you can NOT use your gun to protect your property in CA, doing so will get you in deep shit.
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 08:16:42 PM »
Quote from: TAB on March 06, 2011, 08:03:43 PM
he is a idiot, you can NOT use your gun to protect your property in CA, doing so will get you in deep shit.

Thought that also......but was not 100% sure if it was defined in CA law (it is defined in some states).
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #5 on: Today at 11:16:39 AM »
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 08:30:31 PM »
It's called the Castle Doctrine TAB,....many states have it.

For a moment, let's go into your evening,.....Nice dinner, quiet night, everything hunky-dory,...

You retire for the night, and about an hour later your door is kicked in. WTF do you know about the intruders?

They just want your property? So it's all good NOT to shoot them?,...I can get another DVD player, and some knick-knacks?

What a surrender mentality. We here at DRTV, know you better than that,...and know you would defend yourself.

Regardless of California law. Your door gets kicked in, the BG's get what they deserve.

1) Lawful Gun Owner
2) VICTIM....

Pretty simple.
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 08:56:49 PM »
you can only use deadly force in CA if you are in fear of your life/great bodly harm or you fear for some one elses life/bodly harm.

its up to the DA to prove that you were not in fear for your life.  That being said, if my door gets kicked in, I am in fear for my life and those of my family. 
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 09:06:20 PM »
Quote from: TAB on March 06, 2011, 08:56:49 PM
you can only use deadly force in CA if you are in fear of your life/great bodly harm or you fear for some one elses life/bodly harm.

its up to the DA to prove that you were not in fear for your life.  That being said, if my door gets kicked in, I am in fear for my life and those of my family.  

What TAB says is true, (Remember, it's Ca. no castle doctrine )
BUT, What he added at the end is generally accepted as a defense, there was a case just like this in Oakland when I was out there.
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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 09:17:43 PM »
we also can stand are ground.  Non of that run away 1st crap, like several states still have.

SD in CA is actually very good and its been that way for decades.



Its not what a reasonable person would think, its what you think that matters under CA law.

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Re: Of burglars and 84 year-old ladies
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 07:04:20 AM »
Whether the cop was an idiot or not, I like his take on defending ones home and property.

If his attitude were held by the majority of residents who where not reluctant to express those beliefs, I'd bet the anti-gun laws in CA would be reduced.
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