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We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« on: March 13, 2011, 05:49:20 PM »
President Barack Obama Special To The Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:00 am

t's been more than two months since the tragedy in Tucson stunned the nation. It was a moment when we came together as one people to mourn and to pray for those we lost. And in the attack's turbulent wake, Americans by and large rightly refrained from finger-pointing, assigning blame or playing politics with other people's pain.

But one clear and terrible fact remains. A man our Army rejected as unfit for service; a man one of our colleges deemed too unstable for studies; a man apparently bent on violence, was able to walk into a store and buy a gun.

--SNIP--

Now, like the majority of Americans, I believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. And the courts have settled that as the law of the land. In this country, we have a strong tradition of gun ownership that's handed from generation to generation. Hunting and shooting are part of our national heritage. And, in fact, my administration has not curtailed the rights of gun owners - it has expanded them, including allowing people to carry their guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.

The fact is, almost all gun owners in America are highly responsible. They're our friends and neighbors. They buy their guns legally and use them safely, whether for hunting or target shooting, collection or protection. And that's something that gun-safety advocates need to accept. Likewise, advocates for gun owners should accept the awful reality that gun violence affects Americans everywhere, whether on the streets of Chicago or at a supermarket in Tucson.

--SNIP--

• First, we should begin by enforcing laws that are already on the books. The National Instant Criminal Background Check System is the filter that's supposed to stop the wrong people from getting their hands on a gun. Bipartisan legislation four years ago was supposed to strengthen this system, but it hasn't been properly implemented. It relies on data supplied by states - but that data is often incomplete and inadequate. We must do better.

• Second, we should in fact reward the states that provide the best data - and therefore do the most to protect our citizens.

• Third, we should make the system faster and nimbler. We should provide an instant, accurate, comprehensive and consistent system for background checks to sellers who want to do the right thing, and make sure that criminals can't escape it.

--SNIP--

Clearly, there's more we can do to prevent gun violence. But I want this to at least be the beginning of a new discussion on how we can keep America safe for all our people.

I know some aren't interested in participating. Some will say that anything short of the most sweeping anti-gun legislation is a capitulation to the gun lobby. Others will predictably cast any discussion as the opening salvo in a wild-eyed scheme to take away everybody's guns. And such hyperbole will become the fodder for overheated fundraising letters.

But I have more faith in the American people than that. Most gun-control advocates know that most gun owners are responsible citizens. Most gun owners know that the word "commonsense" isn't a code word for "confiscation." And none of us should be willing to remain passive in the face of violence or resigned to watching helplessly as another rampage unfolds on television.

--SNIP--

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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 06:17:03 PM »
President Barack Obama Special To The Arizona Daily Star

SPECIAL:  As opposed to the Barch Obama MAGNUM


• ........to stop the wrong people from getting their hands on a gun.
• .........states that provide the best data
• ..........an instant, accurate, comprehensive and consistent system ............and make sure criminal can't escape it.


Unh Huh. 

So who decides who are the "right" people?
Give government more data to control your life.
Try and get your name OFF the list, if it ends up there accidentally
So wait.  If you're one of the "wrong" people then you're a criminal?

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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 06:39:29 PM »
Alf,

Ya gotta admit that what he proposes is what we all want (in GENERAL terms).  He did even say that people are allowed to own guns for protection. 
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They buy their guns legally and use them safely, whether for hunting or target shooting, collection or protection. And that's something that gun-safety advocates need to accept.
I say at this point we act like Reagan "Trust BUT verify".
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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 06:49:37 PM »
In the words of my Father-In-Law, "Don't listen to what BHO says,  watch out for what he does."
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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 07:15:05 PM »
In the words of my Father-In-Law, "Don't listen to what BHO says,  watch out for what he does."

I try not to listen to him  my ears start to bleed
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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 07:18:04 PM »
Enforce the laws against murder, rape and robbery with realistic sentences and the rest will solve itself.

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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 07:46:53 PM »
Enforce the laws against murder, rape and robbery with realistic sentences and the rest will solve itself.

ahh so you have the same issue than we do  ::)
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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 07:50:56 PM »
It's all bullsh!t.
 What good is "gun control" when I know 2 ways to kill with a rolled up magazine ?

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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 08:51:43 PM »
Only two? Amateur... ;D ;D
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Re: We must seek agreement on gun reforms - OBAMA
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 09:33:35 PM »
President Barack Obama Special To The Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:00 am
<snippage>
But one clear and terrible fact remains. A man our Army rejected as unfit for service; a man one of our colleges deemed too unstable for studies; a man apparently bent on violence, was able to walk into a store and buy a gun.

The Tucson tragedy, every 'active shooter' tragedy and ALL of the gang killlings from San Diego to New York in the last 100 years aren't a drop in the bucket compared to the number of deaths perpetrated by governments who controlled, restricted and ultimately banned their peoples right to firearms.

BHusseinO doesn't get it and never will.

Whether by edict or slow erosion of rights like we have had since 1934, giving the govt more power will end up the same way. Us being screwed. To control them, you MUST know where they are and who owns them.
Of course you have to register them now! If you're not a criminal you don't have anything to hide right?
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